KVR Audio

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:11 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:18 am In business, when you realize you're making a mistake, your next step is to immediately stop making it. That's what TAL did.

But also in business - own your mistakes. He obviously didn’t.

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:16 am

FapFilter wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:03 am ?!?
as has been said before a couple of times, it is common practice to stop transactions when an error has occured, it usually is even in their sales terms.
good luck when you try to get a MacBook Pro from Amazon that they accidentally put on sale for $299 instead of $2999

Totally the spin doctor behavior I was writing about.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:25 am

no one is spinning anything around, just stating facts. unless you can show us some terms of some sellers that state that they will always honor every interaction, even if they made mistakes that would harm them?

and did you get your money back, or not? and no, losses due to changes in currency exchange do not count, as the transactions have been made in one specific currency.
when you do a sale in Euros, it's not in your responsibility how the Yen, or Krone is relating to that transaction either.
you could also have "won" if your currency was faring better at the time of compensation

Dencheg · Post by **Dencheg** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:26 am

equisonus wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:45 am The fact is: mistake or not, sales were not honored, because TAL decided so.

The fact is - mistake wasn't honored, sale or not.

equisonus wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:45 am To the spin doctors: good luck changing the minds of people who didn’t receive the TAL plugins they rightfully purchased during this sale.

Good luck honoring a sale next time when you accidentally buy a plugin for $8,000 instad of $8.000

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:32 am

Spinning such tales or not, at the end of the day TAL lost a hundred or so potential customers and a distributor network and also lost face. But of course it’s his business - his decision.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:33 am

Good luck honoring a sale next time when you accidentally buy a plugin for $8,000 instad of $8.000

he would of course honor that contract and swallow up that price, as he isn't one of all these spin doctors

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:36 am

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:37 am

sorry

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:40 am

No trouble

mi-os · Post by **mi-os** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:46 am

equisonus wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:45 am The fact is: mistake or not, sales were not honored, because TAL decided so.

Why do you think you have a right to something others paid much more for? In the greater scheme of things there are much more aspects to this than just you and a handful of others here being upset because you couldn't profit on peoples mistakes.

-Your friendly spin doctor next door

Crossinger · Post by **Crossinger** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:51 am

mi-os wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:46 am Why do you think you have a right to something others paid much more for?

Not necessarily a "right" on it's own, but nowadays paying full price for a plugin is more like an idiot's tax.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:52 am

only for things that are constantly on sale

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:58 am

What’s not constantly on sale these days. Also 75% discounts for audio software are the new normal. Just see UAD…

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:19 am

there's actually a lot that's not constantly on sale, some actually don't budge on their prices, except for maybe a one time 20% off when the plugin has just been released, or in it's pre release form.
a few of them are even in your sig.

one could argue with so much awesome stuff that can be had for absolutely free, that everything more than $0.0000 are idiot's taxes, but people love when they are finding "no brainer".... ahem... "discounts", because this month, we can once again have a ""$300 emulation of $5000 hardware" for $29, just like last month.

plugins are worth as much, as they are worth it to you, so a $200 compressor could be your priceless possession, or a $0.000 could do

if you go by interviews, many of the best paid mixing and mastering engineers are stilll using ancient stuff from 2000-2005 as their go tos, so most of the sales today are mainly there to boost and satisfy consumerism

mi-os · Post by **mi-os** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:35 am

equisonus wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:58 am What’s not constantly on sale these days. Also 75% discounts for audio software are the new normal. Just see UAD…

Not all companies (like TAL) are in that silly mega discount game. If you look at their regular prices it's pretty clear. Stop pretending otherwise.

Tal J-8