Analog Subtractive Synth, Pt. 2

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synth lords, I am at it again.
I need an authentic subtractive analog synth (so I can get into the synthesis game)...
I apologize for the generalness of my initial post, allow me to outline further specifications:

>Polyphonic
>Keyboard built in
>Budget: $500
>Transportable, moderate size (3-5 octaves).

>music inspirations:
-old school techno
-dark ambient
-vaporwave
-dungeon synth
-lo-fi

>Strong preference for something vintage
>Strong preference for old garbage (this is lo-fi philosophy)
>Need BASS capabilites
>Need MIDI capabilities, as I shall record into DAW

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nastablook22 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:25 pm >Polyphonic
>Keyboard built in
>Budget: $500
poly and 500 narros it down quite a bit imho

korg minilogue /maybe xd (more expensive)
behrinnger deepmind 6

are the only ones...

maybe arturia microfreak
which is not really polyphon but rather paraphon
and it's rather a digital one than an analog...
nastablook22 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:25 pm >Strong preference for something vintage
>Strong preference for old garbage (this is lo-fi philosophy)
2nd hand market? old 80s analog synth ?
the prices have gone up in the last couple of years

jx8p/jx3p might have been in the 500 range
but afaik not anymore...
maybe poly800

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nastablook22 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:25 pm synth lords, I am at it again.
I need an authentic subtractive analog synth (so I can get into the synthesis game)...
I apologize for the generalness of my initial post, allow me to outline further specifications:

>Polyphonic
>Keyboard built in
>Budget: $500
>Transportable, moderate size (3-5 octaves).

>music inspirations:
-old school techno
-dark ambient
-vaporwave
-dungeon synth
-lo-fi

>Strong preference for something vintage
>Strong preference for old garbage (this is lo-fi philosophy)
>Need BASS capabilites
>Need MIDI capabilities, as I shall record into DAW
There is almost nothing that meets all that criteria. Maybe a used Korg Poly-800. If you can scrape together another hundred, you could get a Deepmind 6, but it’s hardly vintage. Great value for the money, though.
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Juno 106 in 1997. :D

Otherwise, yeah Minilogue or DeepMind.
DM is probably better for bass.

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You're having a laugh for 500 but anyway, I'll tell you your options:

Korg Minilogue XD (£529) or Behringer Deepmind 6 (£495) as everyone else has recommended.

You may as well spend more and get the Deepmind 12 (£669).

I would personally go for a Poly-800 Behringer Pro-800 (£335) + MIDI Keyboard such as Arturia Keystep 37 (£169) Total: £504.

Spend around £1300 and all your options open up considerably.
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As above. Not much of anything in that range for a poly. MinilogueXD at slightly over budget. An older straight Minilogue does fit the bill but has quite a bit less than the XD. Definitely worth considering as those Korg filters are very characterful and any Minilogue is a standout synth. Only 4 voices but that's definitely usable.

Deepmind 6 is much more vanilla but very capable nevertheless. It's a good starter analogue and very much based on Roland Junos, so it keeps many people happy. It really is what you'd call bog standard in terms of sound though, as were Junos, so I guess it does what it says on the tin.

Classic analogue? You'll be very lucky to get anything worth having for $500. Possibly a JX3p? I suspect they've increased above that range by now, but they were really good - possibly one of my favourite budget Roland's - way more character than any Juno IMO.

If it has to be $500, then you might have to consider Behringer Pro800. No keyboard, but for that price you get a desktop 8 voice analogue and can afford a keyboard controller on top. It's out on its own for price, with literally no other 8 voice analogue anywhere close. Keep your eyen on Behringer, they might have other cheap poly analogues out soon? Not definite, but possible.
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Out of that lot, I'd go Minilogue XD for just a bit over budget. It stands on its own as oozing in character heads and shoulders above the rest. All the others are just a bit boring in comparison IMO, but the Behringer 8voice is absolutely stunning value (no keyboard).

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cryophonik wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:06 am Digitakt
DIGI-takt ? :D

doesn't fit the 500$ (at around 855) bill, isn't analog nor has a keyboard....

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the poly-800 actually is not polyphon - rather paraphon (one filter for all voices)...

the originnal minilogue is €519,-, XD 626,-
deepmind 579,-

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Could also consider Behringer PolyD and Behringer Monopoly, which are both 4 voice truly paraphonic and quite limited for poly action (1 osc per voice) but they're both $600k. Deepmind6 is $600. I checked Sweetwater and a basic Minilogue is $550, which looks your closest bet. Nothing new comes in at $500 with a keyboard and poly. You should be able to find some of these at $500 2nd hand though.

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Sorry I meant the Behringer Pro-800 not the Korg Poly-800.
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i see

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muki wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:58 am
cryophonik wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:06 am Digitakt
DIGI-takt ? :D

doesn't fit the 500$ (at around 855) bill, isn't analog nor has a keyboard....
…and also isn’t vintage. :tu:

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OK thank you for all of the reply's.
Some of these models do look promising as a place to start.

If anybody still wants to continue this thread please feel free to make recommendation's beyond the conservative budget which I had initially lain out. I am willing to invest more into a truly aesthetic piece of equipment... 0_0

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