U-HE Zebra 3 Alpha Prototype Developments

[tq]

U-he might have been one of the top developers a couple of decades ago but now? Meh just a mediocre developer.

No, I will not read or respond to any replies from you or any of your sycophants.....

Wow, a *couple* of decades? Well, Urs is not THAT old. And yeah, U-he products are mediocre for sure. Good thing: most of us have ears and hear the quality.

Just to give you some perspective: Some of the "sycophants" here actually know Urs and his company for a long time indeed - well, not since the 70s, but still... and he always stayed true to his design ethos and communication style. That's actually why a lot of us like the guy, as he's authentic and not just full of s... Yes, sometimes he is blunt, but hey - he's German.

I still remember Urs from the Big Blue Lounge / OSX Audio days and the very beginnings of Zebra 1. Super fun times, and good vibes back then. Not that awful hostility we get around here sometimes. So, no sycophants, but just friendly people who like to chat, listen, and make music. And hey, if you are polite and friendly, you can also criticize the man. Urs can take it if you're not acting like a total Try it with friendliness and a bit of dry humor, and you get much further than with hostility.

[Urs]

I still remember Urs from the Big Blue Lounge / OSX Audio days

Those were the times.

[THE INTRANCER]

This is his standard sign-off these days. He's reminding more and more me of another long-time KVR member who has the same level of self-importance, tact, and belief that his viewpoint is only reasonable one ever. Grrrrrrr!

[pdxindy]

Try it with friendliness and a bit of dry humor, and you get much further than with hostility.

A person can only share what they have.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I still remember Urs from the Big Blue Lounge / OSX Audio days

Those were the times.

We're those the days of taking a picture of a hardware synth with a sign that says "replaced by Zebra" to get a 50 dollar discount?

I remember taking a picture of a guitar synth pedal board and I was like does this count? And you're like I don't know what that thing is but sure. I think it was almost 20 years ago haha.

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

Well, I think that something like 3-4 animated modulation sources shared by 10-20 worthy targets will make people want to go for Zebra3 *badly*

Take my money, please! Already use Zebra2 daily, this could ruin my free time (lol)!

Gimme, gimme, gimmmmmeeeeee!

[CrystalWizard]

and he always stayed true to his design ethos and communication style. That's actually why a lot of us like the guy, as he's authentic and not just full of s... Yes, sometimes he is blunt, but hey - he's German.
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Perfect. This is why i like U-he, PSPAudioware, Valhalla DSP, Madrona Labs, and others. They fit this description. One doesn't need to be a "sycophant" to appreciate that.

[FarleyCZ]

"medicore developer" ... I'm sorry, but big LOL. Are there plugins capable of completely different (sometimes even broader) sonic palletes? Yes. Are there plugins full-packed of features Urs just doesn't want to implement? Oh yes. But "medicore developer"? I'm sorry, but let me go into a little militant-ish mode here: This guy literally advices other developers when they're in trouble. That man needs no JUCE. His stuff got into the biggest most high-budget soundtracks. Hans Zimmer has his phone number. Diva literally started a trend of analog emulations unrecognizable from the originals. (Actually I prefer it's sound to brand new unbeaten Moogs.)

Maybe it's just all the time I've spent in Zebra talking out of me, but calling Urs Heckman a "medicore developer" is simply translated to plain english as "I'm either new into VSTs or ignore the scene whatsoever, but I do have my opinions loud and clear". Sorry not sorry.

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[Lbdunequest]

I dont think there is such thing as modern demand in music instrument industry, otherwise every synth would be the same, almost the same. In fact this is what we are having with VA's and many wavetable synthesizers not offering much of difference between each other. I personaly am for something like resynthesis and sample playback BUT if id rather have something more interesting and new then that because there are already synths with sample playback. And im sure U-He wount dissapoint in that regard.

[martiu]

Sorry but Urs is not mediocre, even his free synths are great (i love cheese)

[Lbdunequest]

By the way about U-He. As far as i know its one of the few developers who support their products for a very long time. Remeber when Zebra 2 came out, when Diva came out...Hive when came and new version came out with a very significant upgrade for a fraction of a price and its still being maintained. Not many developers do that.

Im not a fan boy, not a fan boy of anything but if i were Image-Line and U-he would be the companies id love to support (and supporting), just because of how down to earth and pro-consumer those companies are.

[Urs]

i didn't said anything new or negative actually,just a statement with assumption that this could be heard

Look man, you're doing it again.

Like in your first statement, you obviously do not know our software. Why else would you "demand" something for Zebra3 that quite obviously you do not need to demand? Why would anyone assume that Zebra 3 has less polyphony, fewer filters and fewer sound design capabilities beyond "weird noises" than Zebra 2?

And since it's a non-issue, why would you accuse us of "not listening to sound designers"?

And where on earth are those amazing ideas that we can somehow only get by talking to you that we can not possibly figure out ourselves? If all you have to offer is "16 voices, interesting filters and no weird noises", then quite frankly, I think we might have long moved past that goal post.

Therefore, the only explanation for your recurring insults is, you don't know anything about us or our software (you only know through others that it's "underrated"... really? That's your spin?), which is by definition nothing less than ignorance.

Ignorance is not a good position if you want to be heard. You may want to try harder next time, like, for instance, being on topic as a base level.

[palle2]

Pff, Velltone created the User Controlled Real Time Reshaping Nonlinear Dynamics System! I hope that its already patent pending.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I demand that you update Tyrrell or I won't even download the Zebra3 demo! Hehe

[Echoes in the Attic]

Pff, Velltone created the User Controlled Real Time Reshaping Nonlinear Dynamics System! I hope that its already patent pending.

Ooh does that have warp cores? (Possibly obscure reference/inside joke)