KVR Audio

sc_a · Post by **sc_a** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:59 pm

I believe only time will tell, but it certainly looks that Yamaha and Steinberg are more of a kind than Steinberg and Pinnacle.

ahja · Post by **ahja** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:34 pm

HanafiH wrote:It’s more of the same, as usual. Oh yes, and exactly where is the final bug fix to SX2? Up Santa’s jingle bells?

Its out on the pinnaclesys server. Cubase_SX_220b39
Don't be so quick to judge.

cnegrad · Post by **cnegrad** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:38 pm

Don't be so quick to judge.

Yes, y'all need to calm down. All this posturing changes absolutely nothing. Just sit back and relax and let's see where this all goes.

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:26 am

ahja wrote:
HanafiH wrote:It’s more of the same, as usual. Oh yes, and exactly where is the final bug fix to SX2? Up Santa’s jingle bells?
Its out on the pinnaclesys server. Cubase_SX_220b39
Don't be so quick to judge.

Please note:
Although this update features some important bug fixes it is an unsupported hot fix version.

And I've spent seven years judging Steinberg. But I will be fair, they have got better. They will at least acknowledge now that their software has problems. They will at least respond in their forums, sometimes, when people suffer from the effects of those bugs. And they have, finally, stopped some the worst predatory practices of their marketing such as leapfrogging and walking away from versions once the refund window in the T&Cs is passed. They still ship .00 versions with four pages of fundamental bugs in them.

I somehow don't think these changes arise because of the 'give it a bump if you think Cubase is great hooray' crowd. Its been the result of years of continual and escalating vocal dissastisfaction from legitamate users, and, even, the press.

unic · Post by **unic** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:36 am

Probably all this will show up soon enough in 2005 - and regarding customer support - who knows, but I really doubt any revolutionary changes will take place. It's Steinberg.

sc_a · Post by **sc_a** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:41 am

Let's hope for a benefitial outcome

Z · Post by Z » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:40 am

HanafiH wrote: They still ship .00 versions with four pages of fundamental bugs in them.

Boy, are you mistaken! It's a thing Steinberg has learned from Microsoft; it's not a bug, it's a feature.

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:41 am

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bebop · Post by **bebop** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:55 am

I think if I were a Steinberg's client I would feel really pissed off to see this compagny (and consumers data) sold twice in two years...

People wake up!

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:10 am

... and all that poor Logic userbase sold to Apple. But - they wanted that deep inside

bebop · Post by **bebop** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:16 am

mauseoleum wrote:... and all that poor Logic userbase sold to Apple. But - they wanted that deep inside

What had been lengthly commented and criticised at the time as well btw

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:37 am

True, true ... Life can be a Bitch sometimes. But Happy Tracktionators dont't have to worry about That. They even don't have to have a Mac to Be Fancy - they already have The Mackie

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:41 am

And I've spent seven years judging Steinberg

I'm sure that was a lot of fun ... You must be A Man With A Misson

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:46 am

so how many sequencers are not tied to a hardware manufacturer

steiny - yamaha

logic - apple

traktion - mackie

sonar - edirol

difital performer - motu (yes iknow they are the same company but ....)

so who will buy up fruity ??????

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:51 am

ericj23 wrote:sonar - edirol

How so? I didn't know that!

Forever,

Kim.

Yamaha Buys Steinberg