KVR Audio

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm

_leras wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:09 am The UAD one is pure excellent. Very real sounding.

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reve ... everb.html

I find springs to be a bit of a one trick pony though... But when it works...

I can't wait til this gets a native version. Like the big cave style spring in my AC15C1, sounds nothing like a drippy Fender style. Overloud's SpringAge was my favorite, had models of the AKG and RE-201, but seems they stopped supporting it a few years ago.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:30 pm

mothra wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm
_leras wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:09 am The UAD one is pure excellent. Very real sounding.

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reve ... everb.html

I find springs to be a bit of a one trick pony though... But when it works...
I can't wait til this gets a native version. Like the big cave style spring in my AC15C1, sounds nothing like a drippy Fender style. Overloud's SpringAge was my favorite, had models of the AKG and RE-201, but seems they stopped supporting it a few years ago.

The AKG is very different to typical spring reverbs - it sounds even less artifical (and less like spring reverb) than the necklace ones... I guess the currently closest native plugins is the Fuse Audio Labs VREV-305 (which emulates a spring reverb that has a kind of similar topography to the AKG)

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:29 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 1:09 pm
kidslow wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:20 am Unfortunately Dubstation has been discontinued.
Sounds like they plan on replacing it with something. I'm sure Audio Thing will take care of existing owners. Plus, it still works and they just updated it so you'll be good using the current version for years.

Never bought it. Not sure why.

But did a little research ...

https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/en/public ... production

... and King Tubby's Big Knob was apparently a (mostly) stock Altec 9069B stepped high pass filter, which could be subbed in software perhaps with a Black Rooster VHL-3C, or more closely using the Nomad Factory All-Tec EQs v2. Wait, hold up, was there a stealth release of new resizeable and Apple silicon native NF plugins?!

There are also various Ableton, Reaper, MXXX, etc. instructions on how to recreate the Big Knob ... and at least 2 hardware recreations.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:58 pm

kidslow wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:29 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 1:09 pm
kidslow wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:20 am Unfortunately Dubstation has been discontinued.
Sounds like they plan on replacing it with something. I'm sure Audio Thing will take care of existing owners. Plus, it still works and they just updated it so you'll be good using the current version for years.
Never bought it. Not sure why.

But did a little research ...

https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/en/public ... production

... and King Tubby's Big Knob was apparently a (mostly) stock Altec 9069B stepped high pass filter, which could be subbed in software perhaps with a Black Rooster VHL-3C, or more closely using the Nomad Factory All-Tec EQs v2. Wait, hold up, was there a stealth release of new resizeable and Apple silicon native NF plugins?!

There are also various Ableton, Reaper, MXXX, etc. instructions on how to recreate the Big Knob ... and at least 2 hardware recreations.

Damn…. No stealth release as it’s still not native.

I got excited for a moment, but it says it’ll run on Silicon with Rosetta.

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:02 pm

elxsound wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:58 pm Damn…. No stealth release as it’s still not native.

I got excited for a moment, but it says it’ll run on Silicon with Rosetta.

Where do you see Rosetta?

Download Retro EQs Bundle for MacOSX
Version 2.0.0 (Build 1597) - October 13, 2023

Code: Select all

AAX		Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
AudioUnit	Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
VST3		Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
VST		Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB

Just Installed the demo. ARM Native, according to Pluginfo. Unfortunate we can't display just the Filter but have to load the entire stack.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:24 pm

kidslow wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:02 pm
elxsound wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:58 pm Damn…. No stealth release as it’s still not native.

I got excited for a moment, but it says it’ll run on Silicon with Rosetta.
Where do you see Rosetta?

Download Retro EQs Bundle for MacOSX
Version 2.0.0 (Build 1597) - October 13, 2023
Code: Select all
AAX		Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
AudioUnit	Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
VST3		Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
VST		Universal Binary 2	From 10.13 and up	2.0.0 (1597)	89 MB
Just Installed the demo. ARM Native, according to Pluginfo. Unfortunate we can't display just the Filter but have to load the entire stack.

Damn, so it is a stealth upgrade!

It still says Rosetta on their product page so I didn’t bother downloading. I’ll have to check it out because there’s some gems.

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:36 pm

It's only the Retro EQs bundle that got the stealth upgrade, but a year ago Plugivery did promise native versions of the NF back catalog by end of this year.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:38 pm

mothra wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm
_leras wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:09 am The UAD one is pure excellent. Very real sounding.

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reve ... everb.html

I find springs to be a bit of a one trick pony though... But when it works...
I can't wait til this gets a native version. Like the big cave style spring in my AC15C1, sounds nothing like a drippy Fender style. Overloud's SpringAge was my favorite, had models of the AKG and RE-201, but seems they stopped supporting it a few years ago.

Yeah one of mine too, pity they are not updating it or Breverb which is also excellent

bermudagold · Post by **bermudagold** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:25 pm

ccDuckett wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:32 pm It unfortunately never wanted to work reliably, but for a long time, Hotto Engineering's donationware Spring Reverb had a certain "something" that I preferred... xoxos' Spring2 was another I liked, but would "explode" a little too easily. Other than using particular spring IRs I like, Springbox. It may not sound amazing by itself, but does seem to sit in mixes nicely. From what I've heard, both Spirit Reverb and Twangstrom wouldn't lead to buyer's remorse, they sound great (I just don't have them).

i liked several of hotto plugs...is there anywhere they are available all together these days?

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:55 pm

aMUSEd wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:38 pm Yeah one of mine too, pity they are not updating it or Breverb which is also excellent

HOLYFKNGSHITE THEY UPDATED SPRINGAGE!!!

I haven't checked in awhile so I have NO idea when this happened, but after I saw your post I decided to go login and its now v1.5.5!!
Checked the changelog and

1.5.4 -> 1.5.5
--------------

- Added VST3 format

- Added stand-alone app

- Added native Apple Silicon support for all formats

- Fixed some USB authorization problems on macOS

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS!!!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:00 pm

mothra wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:55 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:38 pm Yeah one of mine too, pity they are not updating it or Breverb which is also excellent
HOLYFKNGSHITE THEY UPDATED SPRINGAGE!!!

I haven't checked in awhile so I have NO idea when this happened, but after I saw your post I decided to go login and its now v1.5.5!!
Checked the changelog and

1.5.4 -> 1.5.5
--------------

- Added VST3 format

- Added stand-alone app

- Added native Apple Silicon support for all formats

- Fixed some USB authorization problems on macOS

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS!!!

Oh wow, I only checked a couple of days ago, awesome!

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:06 pm

aMUSEd wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:00 pm Oh wow, I only checked a couple of days ago, awesome!

Up until a few months ago, I was still checking in at least once a week just to see if maybe...

I wonder if they saw us talking here and decided to throw it out real quick haha. Just got it authorized and double checked with PluginInfo, and wow VST3 AND AS native now..

Probably still get that AKG from UA when it gets cheap but man I am so stoked my big heavenly cave spring is back!!!

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:20 pm

Has anyone tried this, or is Waves still in the doghouse?

https://www.thomann.de/intl/waves_magma_springs.htm

heyheycnv · Post by **heyheycnv** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:37 pm

Bombadil wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:20 pm Has anyone tried this, or is Waves still in the doghouse?

https://www.thomann.de/intl/waves_magma_springs.htm

I didn't care for it at all. Mediocre reverb with not much spring feel. Many other plugins out there that sound much better including impulses.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:11 pm

Thanks.

Spring reverb: what is the state of affairs in 2023?