Charlatan³ Free VA synth updated to v3.3.2 (Win/Linux)

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Odd Fella wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:26 am
Jbravo wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:15 am Is there a possibility to change the phase of the unison voices? I think they all start exactly in phase every time so you always get that flanging effect with every note which is not an effect I like and restricts it to a very specific digital sound which is not always useful
Set osc phase to max, i.e. free-running.
yes thank you! :tu:
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Teksonik wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:03 pm
So no way to modulate the Pitch for Osc1 and 2 separately using different XForm sources ?

I was surprised to find this limitation

where can I find this quick guide?
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So, will there be a Charlatan 3 plugin page on KVR? I still only see C2.

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Jbravo wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:15 am
Teksonik wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:03 pm
So no way to modulate the Pitch for Osc1 and 2 separately using different XForm sources ?
I was surprised to find this limitation
I'm hoping there is a way and I'm just missing it. We'll have to wait to hear from the developer to see what he says.
Jbravo wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:15 amwhere can I find this quick guide?
It's in the install folder as a .txt file. It's not very in depth but covers some of the basics.
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I think it might be a bug rather than a limitation honestly? Yeah not a bug, it's even in the txt file:
For pitch and phase, the modulation targets "Osc Pitch" and "Osc Phase" are shared across all four base oscillators. The "S"-shaped icon next to the controls allows activating modulation for a particular base oscillator.
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I clicked the ratio of waveform 2 and the amount of modulation is being applied to waveform 1.
There seems to be an odd conflict.

All 4 of the ratios show the same "modulation list" when right clicking them, which makes no sense to me:

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I think Phase 1-4 is also affected.
Last edited by cyrb on Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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As someone already quoted, it seems that any pitch modulation applies to all 4 oscillators at once, except those, whose Ratio sinewave symbol is turned off.

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Ah, I get it now. So:

- You can modulate the oscillator tuning with up to 4 sources. :D
- But every oscillator shares the same list of applied modulation sources :cry:
- Including the modulation amounts being actually applied :cry:
- And you can't manually automate each oscillator's pitch with external sources because it's not an actual VST3 parameter :cry:
- But if you don't want the same pitch modulation applied to every oscillator you can turn it off individually :tu:


I'm assuming this was done in the name of CPU efficiency, so I suppose it's understandable. :scared:

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In a coconut shell, yes :D

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can someone explain the 4 XFORM things? I can't make head or tail how to use them
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The_Anarchivist_00 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:46 am I am running BC Patchwork within Orion DAW,
Have you tried Polac's VST3 adapter?

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I've noticed that when I use ADSR2 to modulate the pitch of OSC2, after a while the attack time changes. If I've set to it attack slowly, after playing ten notes or so the attack time becomes fast
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I made a bunch of presets here in case anyone is interested 32 random sounds, a few of which have been adapted from other synths :party:
Komosa.zip
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Jbravo wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:31 pm can someone explain the 4 XFORM things? I can't make head or tail how to use them
Basically you choose an input modulator, and the X axis of the graph represents the amplitude of said modulator. The Y axis represents the amount of modulation to apply. It allows you to trigger a new modulation when the input modulator's amplitude reaches a threshold, or directly based on it. So it can be used to do nothing until a threshold is reached, or build up a more complex modulation directly based on the input modulation

One example would be using a Breath Controller. With the following graph, you could open the filter, or alter the pitch, after you blow hard enough and pass the amplitude threshold.

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cyrb wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:33 pm
Jbravo wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:31 pm can someone explain the 4 XFORM things? I can't make head or tail how to use them
Basically you choose an input modulator, and the X axis of the graph represents the amplitude of said modulator. The Y axis represents the amount of modulation to apply. It allows you to trigger a new modulation when the input modulator's amplitude reaches a threshold, or directly based on it. So it can be used to do nothing until a threshold is reached, or build up a more complex modulation directly based on the input modulation

One example would be using a Breath Controller. With the following graph, you could open the filter, or alter the pitch, after you blow hard enough and pass the amplitude threshold.

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Ok I think I get it, thanks for explaining :tu:
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I'm too stupid to run that. I'm letting Charlatan rest for now. No worries.
wikter wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:41 pm
The_Anarchivist_00 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:46 am I am running BC Patchwork within Orion DAW,
Have you tried Polac's VST3 adapter?

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