Tracktion Software

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:08 pm

jens wrote:
nope - Jules clearly answered that once with 'no' but said he would consider it for an update...

Did he mention wether it would be optional or not? I HOPE SO!! I dont want to release my instruments most of the time.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:10 pm

Lunch Money wrote:
However, last night (ie. before this response) I did a test myself, and you're right! It boggles the mind... not sure the reasoning behind keeping the plug-ins loaded if the track is rendered anyways.

The good thing about it is faster loading times when un-freezing.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:32 pm

I, for one, really like this method of marketing. First of all, I really am eager to see what T2 has to offer. I'm fine with T1, but if T2 can offer me more, why not? It's exciting to see some news.

Second, this SHOULD give those who are impatient a reason to be quiet and stop asking every five minutes. Some people just won't be happy. They want some news about Tracktion, but when they get it, they whine that it's not enough. These people will be the ones complaining that T2 doesn't do what they want when it finally comes out. I don't know what it will take to satisfy these people, but I personally don't care if they are pleased or not. They probably won't be happy regardless. Tough luck, I guess.

Well, I feel like ranting today. But hey, it's Christmas Eve and I need to cheer up. Feliz Navidad!

Koolkeys

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:03 pm

The step sequencer looks to be a great addition, I can't wait to see what else is in store. If enough changes, I may start regretting buying Live (though probably not). I'd love Live to have a step sequencer. I really hope there's compelling reasons for me to use both together.

I feel like a voyeur, watching Tracktion develop from outside. Anyway, I'd really love to see T2 slay the Steinberg/Logic dragons.

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:20 pm

I think the "few features per week" is a good idea - it'll give me something to look forward too, and should keep most of the groundhogs at bay for a while!

Just give me ghosted and loopable MIDI clips and I'll be in heaven!

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:56 pm

no actually good marketing is actually exciting the user base by presenting all that they truly can look forward to instead of saying little things here and there. Thats good marketing, especially for a software product.

Either keep all your information until release or dont. Otherwise it looks extremely sloppy. EXTREMELY.

RonC

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:58 pm

Lunch Money wrote:
jens wrote:
Lunch Money wrote:
V-12 wrote:A Freeze function that releases memory
Coulda sworn the current Freeze already did that....
nope - Jules clearly answered that once with 'no' but said he would consider it for an update...

Well, I have to admit... I don't read every single post that's ever posted here, nor do I remember back to an individual post from a year ago, in most cases. <chuckle>

However, last night (ie. before this response) I did a test myself, and you're right!

amongst friends I am quite famous for my brilliant memory

(the cool thing is: other people speak a lot about having a 'photographic memory' - but for scenes I've experienced/witnessed I've got something like a 'videographic memory'

)

edit: damned typos

valley · Post by **valley** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:00 pm

rpc9943 wrote:no actually good marketing is actually exciting the user base by presenting all that they truly can look forward to instead of saying little things here and there.

Well that's good. Off you go then and market some software somewhere. Your fortune awaits.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:01 pm

no thanks im going to market it piece by piece like mackie.

RonC

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:02 pm

rpc9943 wrote:no actually good marketing is actually exciting the user base by presenting all that they truly can look forward to instead of saying little things here and there. Thats good marketing, especially for a software product.

Either keep all your information until release or dont. Otherwise it looks extremely sloppy. EXTREMELY.

RonC

Apparently they got the idea from some little tosspot posting hoax threads in a forum.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:19 am

rpc9943 wrote:no actually good marketing is actually exciting the user base by presenting all that they truly can look forward to instead of saying little things here and there. Thats good marketing, especially for a software product.

Either keep all your information until release or dont. Otherwise it looks extremely sloppy. EXTREMELY.

RonC

Thanks for the marketing lesson, Ron.

I think about a zillion (that's the statistic I got, anyhow, from a reliable source called "my ass") marketing courses and books would take issue with your personal vision of effective marketing.

You're really a mixed up dude, sometimes. You want to know if/when it's coming, and then when you know for sure, you're not happy with the way they did it. If they blew their load and told us all at once, you'd STILL have a few months to wait before it's ready and you'd complain "Why tell us now and then make us wait 2 months." IF they waited until right before release, they'd be missing out on opportunities to generate interest in the product, and you'd probably complain, "Why didn't they hype it up a bit more to get a wider potential client base?"

I think we'll leave the marketing up to the guys getting paid to do it.

Jeremy_NSL · Post by **Jeremy_NSL** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:24 am

obviously the plan is that T2 won't be ready for awhile, and Mackie wants to sustain interest by releasing information in piecemeal fashion. Its a legitimate strategy - maybe a bit annoying; but in no way I can understand calling it bad marketing.

Its certainly much better than the previous plan of saying nothing whatsoever - which doesn't do a whole lot to sustain interest.

sixnon · Post by **sixnon** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:21 am

if i can retain my "lone voice in the wilderness" status and talk about something entirely different. Beno does this to mean that the aforementioned and reappraised "soon" viz a viz. the Final MIx for Mac issue will be in the same "soon" timeframe as T2, or some time prior?

Six

Beno · Post by **Beno** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:44 am

sixnon wrote:Beno does this to mean that the aforementioned and reappraised "soon" viz a viz. the Final MIx for Mac issue will be in the same "soon" timeframe as T2, or some time prior?

Should be sooner. But I can't promise anything.
Ben

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:19 am

rpc,
I'm sure you are a marketing genius. And I'm sure Mackie has NO idea of what they are doing. Yeah, sure. They should hire you. THEN they would do things all right, since you already have an "in" with Jules, and you are a marketing master. I wonder what's taking them so long to hire you.

Man, I'm still in a bad mood. I hope I don't hurt Santa tonight when he breaks in my home.

Koolkeys

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