Refreshed Analog Four & Analog Rytm

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:39 pm
bmanic wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:34 pm
They changed the internals for the mk2 to make it more palatable for most people. Apparently it is beefier, with more sub bass range and a more refined (some describe it as "scooped") sound.
The difference in sound is minimal. I've had both and I consider them essentially the same.

Then main difference for me is the ergonomics. I like the MK II's distinctly better for workflow.
Eh? I just watched the cockos youtube video where he compares the two and the changes to the saturation is HUGE. It literally sounds nothing like the mk1.

The 2nd filter definitely also has very different sound to it.

I checked because I set my mk1 up exactly like the settings he was comparing and indeed I could not duplicate the mk2 sound when using the 2nd filter + distortion.

So yeah, while everything else sounds pretty much the same, the overdrive and the filter are nothing alike.

Personally I think the biggest benefit is indeed the workflow. That performance knob and the extra buttons may very well take me over the edge and try to find a mk2 at some point. However, right now I'm content in just using this as a synth in a box. Haven't even started working with the sequencer yet.
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bmanic wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:54 pm
The 2nd filter definitely also has very different sound to it.
I disagree with that. But whatever... I got fun stuff to go do :)

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I should have been more specific, in the bass range. I tried to match it in the low frequencies but it's way off, mainly the HPF but I hear clear differences in the LPF too when compared to the video. Anyhow, I only went by the video as I don't have a mk2..

If you got both, then you definitely have more accurate info than I have so I'll trust judgement on that.
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bmanic wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:46 pm I should have been more specific, in the bass range.
Yes, that's what changed. Analog Keys was made to be heftier sounding, MK2 got the same changes.

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when I got my a4 I read that the mk1 version even sounded better than the mk2. I don't know whether it's true or not but the mk1 really sounds amazing, and love its old style button configuration. Truth is, the mk2 has more ins/outs

AS for the octatrack, I got the mk2 black because a) wanted more ins, b) wanted the new buttons (which if they don't get stuck they are really comfy), c) the visual is nicer than the mk1 (e.g. the record button lits it all, and not just a led next to it), d) the black is dope :love:

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Bump for Rytm owners, new firmware 1.70 looks well worth a download.



Improvements
Added five new machines: SY CHIP, SY RAW, BD ACOUSTIC, SD ACOUSTIC, and HH LAB.

Added an Euclidean mode for the sequencer.

You can now save a Sound from a specific trig on the sequencer, complete with its sound- and parameter locks applied.

Added the possibility to set a specific number of sequencer steps as record length in the sampler, resulting in loops with the exact length.

Added pad scales and fold functionality for when playing the PADS in CHROMATIC mode.

Implemented functionality that makes it possible to loop selected pattern pages.

Added the square waveform as a parameter value for the WAV parameter in the BD SHARP machine.

The BT CLASSIC machine now has a new PITCH ENVELOPE parameter.

Added two new PULSE WIDTH parameters for the CB CLASSIC and CB METALLIC machines.

Added slew functionality to the RND waveform for the LFOs. When RND is selected for the WAV parameter, the SPH parameter now sets the amount of slew.

[MKII] Added an LED brightness setting parameter in GLOBAL SETTINGS > SYSTEM.

It is now possible to see which PARAMETER PAGES contain parameters with parameter locks. When pressing and holding specific trig in STEP RECORDING mode, the [PARAMETER] keys that contain parameters with locks light up.

Improved oscillator tuning by adding new calibration functionality.

Implemented the possibility of generating a random name from the naming screen when naming a Sound or a pattern.

The NOTE parameter on the TRIG page now shows the note value and the number of semitones in the screen UI.

Improved the naming of the DUAL VCO, IMPULSE, and NOISE GEN machines by adding machine type group naming. The new names are SY DUAL VCO, UT IMPULSE, and UT NOISE.

The sample STA and END parameters are now high resolution. It is also now possible to snap to integers for the STA and END parameters. This, together with now showing true integrers in the display, makes it easier to find the exact start and end points in samples, especially in longer samples such as sample chains.

Added the functionality that when selecting an empty sample slot and then pressing [YES], now opens the +DRIVE sample list.

Improved the screen UI and navigation for the machine selection list and the Sound Manager.

Several analog machines are now scaled in semitones and with high resolution.

It is now possible to also click DATA ENTRY KNOB D to assign a sample from the sample list that is opened when accessing the SMP parameter on the SAMPLE page.

[MKII] Implemented a new LED boot sequence.

Implemented minor improvements of the LED color scheme to better harmonize between different devices of the product line.

Bug fixes

The USB Class Compliant audio from the computer to the Elektron device could sometimes be silenced.

Modulating multiple parameters over MIDI CC or Overbridge could sometimes cause the UI to stop responding.

SysEx dumps could become corrupted when sent to certain computer software.
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RYTM Mk1 for $500 was one of the best hardware purchases I’ve ever made. Great update!

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OMG, that’s a killer update and just in time for my 5-day weekend!
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Just had a quick play before hitting the hay and in particular really liked the new acoustic kick, has poke. Had to remember to update Overbridge too, there’s a new v2.7 which includes controls for the new machines.

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Impressive update!

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OS1.55 released:

Improvements
Added an Euclidean mode for the sequencer.

Added the Control All functionality. Press and hold [TRACK 1–4] while changing a parameter setting to apply the change to this parameter on all audio tracks in the pattern.

You can now save a Sound from a specific trig on the sequencer, complete with its sound- and parameter locks applied.

It is now possible to see which PARAMETER PAGES contain parameters with parameter locks. When pressing and holding specific trig in GRID RECORDING mode, the [PARAMETER] keys that contain parameters with locks light up.

Implemented functionality that makes it possible to loop selected pattern pages.

An arpeggiator sequence can now be rotated with [FUNC] + [LEFT]/[RIGHT].

[MKII] Added an LED intensity setting parameter in GLOBAL SETTINGS > SYSTEM.
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Is the workflow improvement of the MK2’s physical buttons and extra ports really worth paying double the price of a second-hand MK1, now that the latest firmware updates bring the exact same Euclidean sequencer and engine features to both generations?
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I like all the MK1 versions more due to their physical size being smaller and I just like the retro look and button feel of these older ones.. doesn't hurt that they are way cheaper too.
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