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Bippo wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:10 am How many instruments Bach needed to create Toccata and Fugue in D minor?
If a composition for church organ is a good argument for noone needing lots of instruments to make music, then its equally as good an argument for the pointlessness of whinging about latency in the context of modern VSTs.
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If you want to make music like you could only do, back in the 1970s. There is nothing stopping you, but why make life difficult, when you don't need to, it's 2023.
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THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:31 pm it's 2023.
i bet you a fiver that this post is obsolete in less than 60 days.
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vurt wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:41 pm
Now I understand better what's happening to Britain... :dog:

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Bippo wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:10 amLatency
Irrelevant. You experience more of a delay playing in a room of musicians than from your DAW.
and quantization.
Irrelevant. Don’t use it, if you don’t want it.
Obstacle number two:
Way too many options.
Irrelevant. Get a few things you need and ignore anything else.
Lets admit it: modern music is mostly rubbish.
Irrelevant. Most pop music has always sucked. It only seems like more sucks because it’s not made for you. Every generation has been saying exactly this since the beginning of time. You are not some unique character that exists at the end of music.
There is something liberating with knowing that you have a limited amount of options.

I swear I didn't feel so free in a long time.
Irrelevant. Who cares about you? Each person finds a way to work that is best for them. You have not discovered any universal truth.
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martinjuenke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:49 pm
vurt wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:41 pm
Now I understand better what's happening to Britain... :dog:
imagine the outrage when Quentin goes electric

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whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:44 pm
Bippo wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:10 am How many instruments Bach needed to create Toccata and Fugue in D minor?
If a composition for church organ is a good argument for noone needing lots of instruments to make music, then its equally as good an argument for the pointlessness of whinging about latency in the context of modern VSTs.
There’s more time delay from the pipes to the player than from your DAW. (Unless you’re using mastering type plugins that can introduce a lot of delay, which you don’t use during a performance anyway)
Zerocrossing Media

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zerocrossing wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:58 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:44 pm
Bippo wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:10 am How many instruments Bach needed to create Toccata and Fugue in D minor?
If a composition for church organ is a good argument for noone needing lots of instruments to make music, then its equally as good an argument for the pointlessness of whinging about latency in the context of modern VSTs.
There’s more time delay from the pipes to the player than from your DAW.
yes, and there's even more in the mechanism. that was my point.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:02 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:58 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:44 pm
Bippo wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:10 am How many instruments Bach needed to create Toccata and Fugue in D minor?
If a composition for church organ is a good argument for noone needing lots of instruments to make music, then its equally as good an argument for the pointlessness of whinging about latency in the context of modern VSTs.
There’s more time delay from the pipes to the player than from your DAW.
yes, and there's even more in the mechanism. that was my point.
I like to state the obvious for the dimmer ones among us.
Zerocrossing Media

4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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zerocrossing wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:52 pm
Bippo wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:10 amLatency
Irrelevant. You experience more of a delay playing in a room of musicians than from your DAW.
and quantization.
Irrelevant. Don’t use it, if you don’t want it.
Obstacle number two:
Way too many options.
Irrelevant. Get a few things you need and ignore anything else.
Lets admit it: modern music is mostly rubbish.
Irrelevant. Most pop music has always sucked. It only seems like more sucks because it’s not made for you. Every generation has been saying exactly this since the beginning of time. You are not some unique character that exists at the end of music.
There is something liberating with knowing that you have a limited amount of options.

I swear I didn't feel so free in a long time.
Irrelevant. Who cares about you? Each person finds a way to work that is best for them. You have not discovered any universal truth.
Yep! :tu:
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too. :lol:

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Trancit wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:31 am
martinjuenke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:21 am These old boomers are often frustrated by their disappointing lives and aware that their end is near. They have a lot of time, but to little social life as pensioners, so they populate social media and cry out their frustration. Have pity with them, it's the only contact they have.
Wow... I hope you don´t forget you´ll get an old boomer too one day... then you can show the world how superior you are! :tu:
The world will be collapsing by then, I will probably overdose mys elf out of suffering.
dedication to flying

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They'll never be boomers. I call them doomers since they mostly seem to catastrophize at the very suggestion of life while tiktoking their panic so narcissistically.

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I'm sure the amount of data recorded for the production of Dark Side of the Moon is equal to far more than 600GB when digitized at archival quality. That was done at a material cost of many many many times the cost of a hard drive (let's say a 2TB ssd) and while using gear and studios that would still be overpriced for most musicians today without even taking into account inflation.

The answer is no. Give me my prize.

Really though, some people are nervous when presented with choices. if you want to limit yourself to whatever you want to limit yourself to that's up to you. I have more plugins than I would ever bother to count and a whole pile of hard drives that just contain samples, and it hasn't hindered my career or creative output at all.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

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BBFG# wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:51 pm They'll never be boomers. I call them doomers since they mostly seem to catastrophize at the very suggestion of life while tiktoking their panic so narcissistically.
A while ago I heard someone give a talk about doomsday cults and general calls for the end of civilization. I loved their theory. They thought that it has something to do with narcissism and the fear of being completely unimportant to the grand scheme of things. Believing that they were at the “end of the story,” in some way is comforting.
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4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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