One trick I like doing is automatically enabling freeze at the release of notes. Along with reverb ducking this can give really nice unreal ambiences that don't overpower the main instrument. Whether this is useful or not would of course depend on the genre of music.Jorchime wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:30 am Not a reverb, but FabFilter Timeless 3 also would fit, no?
Out of curiosity: how do people use the freeze function. Automate a toggle from your DAW to fill gaps between parts?
Are there more tricks to it, that I don't see?
Reverbs with freeze function
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- KVRist
- 152 posts since 26 May, 2021
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- KVRian
- 673 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
OK, noone has mentionned the great winner of the KVR developer challenge 2021: Solaris
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/solaris-by-adam-szabo
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/solaris-by-adam-szabo
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
When I use freeze verbs I automate the volume of the source track to isolate just the section I want frozen, and then I automate the freeze button on at exactly the right time to catch the magic moment, often fading the source audio out pretty quickly after that.
I do that all as a separate sound design audio bouncing process though, then import the freeze into my main project where I can manipulate it further with volume shaping etc.
I wouldn't have the patience or nerves to try and set up perfect freezes within larger projects, unless the whole thing was very simple. I'd be pulling out my hair in no time!
I do that all as a separate sound design audio bouncing process though, then import the freeze into my main project where I can manipulate it further with volume shaping etc.
I wouldn't have the patience or nerves to try and set up perfect freezes within larger projects, unless the whole thing was very simple. I'd be pulling out my hair in no time!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Thanks for all the latest mentions. I've had Timeless 2 since forever and I think I spotted a freeze button on the GUI yesterday. Wasn't expecting that. Need to go back and investigate.
Nice that Pro-R 2 freezes, I'm sure you could get some spectacular results with the general transparency of that verb!
Soundtoys Plates are welcome additions! They sound so good
Thanks for the link to Giant Verb. I've been wanting to try that for ages and it keeps slipping under the radar. No more excuses now!
I need to try Adam Szabo's Solaris again. Everything the guy makes is absolute gold, but I found Solaris kinda harsh on first run. Maybe it's just not for me, I'm not a shimmer verb guy. But I need to check it out without the shimmer properly. Might be a beaut in there.
Nice that Pro-R 2 freezes, I'm sure you could get some spectacular results with the general transparency of that verb!
Soundtoys Plates are welcome additions! They sound so good
Thanks for the link to Giant Verb. I've been wanting to try that for ages and it keeps slipping under the radar. No more excuses now!
I need to try Adam Szabo's Solaris again. Everything the guy makes is absolute gold, but I found Solaris kinda harsh on first run. Maybe it's just not for me, I'm not a shimmer verb guy. But I need to check it out without the shimmer properly. Might be a beaut in there.
- KVRer
- 27 posts since 9 Aug, 2020 from Germany
Sweet! Thanks for explaining your process!xalama qo wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:02 pm When I use freeze verbs I automate the volume of the source track to isolate just the section I want frozen, and then I automate the freeze button on at exactly the right time to catch the magic moment, often fading the source audio out pretty quickly after that.
I do that all as a separate sound design audio bouncing process though, then import the freeze into my main project where I can manipulate it further with volume shaping etc.
I wouldn't have the patience or nerves to try and set up perfect freezes within larger projects, unless the whole thing was very simple. I'd be pulling out my hair in no time!![]()
So the only "natural" use I've seen so far is freeze as a highlight on throw FX situations.
But I bet there are some useful use cases for dub-pads and other atmosphere situations.
edit:
Found a nice example:
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Thanks for the video!
Haven't watched it yet, but I love the way Raum can get into very granular territory depending how you set the diffusion parameter. I could even get that typical creaking door effect by setting diffusion to zero and playing with the delay time, in freeze mode iirc.
Raum packs a lot in a small package! Excellent
Haven't watched it yet, but I love the way Raum can get into very granular territory depending how you set the diffusion parameter. I could even get that typical creaking door effect by setting diffusion to zero and playing with the delay time, in freeze mode iirc.
Raum packs a lot in a small package! Excellent
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
So I watched the video, and it's a good demonstration for basic typical usage. I found his method a bit convoluted with creating groups to record to etc, I'm not sure that's entirely necessary, you could just route to another audio track... but maybe it was the way his project was set up with busses etc already.
I usually like to use freeze on vocals, to accentuate certain syllables or parts of the vocal, so my typical session involves a lot more pin-point automation of the vocal volume and on/offing of the freeze button.
Depending on how busy the project is I'll either move the vocal over into a blank space down the timeline and work there, or preferably just do it in a fresh project and export the results and import them into the main project where they can be processed and edited further like any other audio track.
My aim is usually to get those kinds of vocal granular washes you hear in movie soundtracks, but precisely tailored for the track. Not just a generic slap on effect, hehe
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I usually like to use freeze on vocals, to accentuate certain syllables or parts of the vocal, so my typical session involves a lot more pin-point automation of the vocal volume and on/offing of the freeze button.
Depending on how busy the project is I'll either move the vocal over into a blank space down the timeline and work there, or preferably just do it in a fresh project and export the results and import them into the main project where they can be processed and edited further like any other audio track.
My aim is usually to get those kinds of vocal granular washes you hear in movie soundtracks, but precisely tailored for the track. Not just a generic slap on effect, hehe
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
So far I'm loving Raum for an alternative to granular. I always loved the sound of simple granular stuff, but never found a vst with a workflow that really felt right for me. I think I should have stopped trying to get realtime results a long time ago, that would have been better. But I'm at last getting the results I wanted by bouncing reverb freezes and editing them in.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 20 Feb, 2022
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- KVRAF
- 14191 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Did anyone mention Sugar Bytes Turnado? It's a module called Freezeverb.
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- DASH Guy
- 8156 posts since 20 Sep, 2001
somehow a reverb, freeware
https://nusofting.com/fertile#sosir
https://nusofting.com/fertile#sosir
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 5 Nov, 2007 from Liverpool, UK
Valhalla Supermassive...
https://valhalladsp.com/2021/05/19/tips ... ermassive/
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- KVRian
- 552 posts since 8 Sep, 2013
Thx for mentioning Reverbical!Den* wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:00 am This one is not known, but it really dominates.
https://www.realtimeonly.com/index.php
Freeze button
Morphing between four presets
Shimmer effect
Don't use factory bank, use Deneb Pinjo bank, and make it default.
Amazing reverb...
The demo sounds amazing (yes, with the Deneb Pinjo bank as you suggested)!
Unless I`m blind, I can`t find a way to buy it..
