Current vs Avenger 2

[kraster]

IMHO every newer instrument face huge risk (from the developer side), because we don't really need newer synths, there are a bunch of already existing super super synths to use, and those synths are existing, tested, rock solid etc...

we always need new tools, they inspire us, could offer new ways of working, new sounds. why should development stop? just because you're happy where you are?

Exactly this.

There are any number of ancient VSTs that can still offer up very usable sounds but it's more about how you interact with them and how easily they make it or drive you to experiment without being unwieldy.

Msoundfactory, Phase Plant, Falcon, Avenger etc. are insanely powerful in terms of capabilities. They're all as deep as oceans but I'd fire up Current 9 times out of 10 BECAUSE of its relative restrictiveness not in spite of it.

That's not a diss on those synths etc. They are incredible feats of engineering and design but it often feels like overkill in most applications I'd use a synth for.

As I said above there's a lot to be said for the concept of an instrument. Something that has defined limitations and capabilities because that gives you very clear boundaries to work within and helps creative focus. It also breeds familiarity and familiarity encourages speed.

I always think of the Orson Welles quote, "The enemy of art is the abscence of limitation"

[DCrown]

Interesting quote.
But 21st century is the era of innovation and technology, AI has just started, there's a lot more to come. Each era defines itself what art is, so such a quote has no eternal value.
Innovation and technology has changed drastically and very quickly, our social behavior and daily life and business , we are addicted to the internet and look into our smartphone screen most of the time. The internet has changed and influenced a very lot of things, it has changed the relation to and view on art, as well.

[fisherKing]

Interesting quote.
But 21st century is the era of innovation and technology, AI has just started, there's a lot more to come. Each era defines itself what art is, so such a quote has no eternal value.
Innovation and technology has changed drastically and very quickly, our social behavior and daily life and business , we are addicted to the internet and look into our smartphone screen most of the time. The internet has changed and influenced a very lot of things, it has changed the relation to and view on art, as well.

there's room for every approach. new tools, old tools. limited resources, unlimited resources.

a great thing about this moment is the fact that we have so many paths to making music; we can work with what we want or need, and make the music we choose to make. am grateful for all the options.

[Jac459]

Interesting quote.
But 21st century is the era of innovation and technology, AI has just started, there's a lot more to come. Each era defines itself what art is, so such a quote has no eternal value.
Innovation and technology has changed drastically and very quickly, our social behavior and daily life and business , we are addicted to the internet and look into our smartphone screen most of the time. The internet has changed and influenced a very lot of things, it has changed the relation to and view on art, as well.

Well said...

[Hanz Meyzer]

VST / PC & Intel Mac VST / AU & AAX - runs in all compatible hosts

An impressive feature list! I guess you also mean ARM macs, too?

[fisherKing]

VST / PC & Intel Mac VST / AU & AAX - runs in all compatible hosts

An impressive feature list! I guess you also mean ARM macs, too?

"Mac:IntelMac 2.8Ghz or M1 Chip"

[kraster]

Interesting quote.
But 21st century is the era of innovation and technology, AI has just started, there's a lot more to come. Each era defines itself what art is, so such a quote has no eternal value.
Innovation and technology has changed drastically and very quickly, our social behavior and daily life and business , we are addicted to the internet and look into our smartphone screen most of the time. The internet has changed and influenced a very lot of things, it has changed the relation to and view on art, as well.

The quote is more about discipline. He was referring more to huge budgets on big Movies but the actual results weren't consonant with the budgets.

You often find innovation in areas where there are limited resources.

Like Current is hardly some retro emulation with a limited palette but it is far more constrained than the Falcons, Avengers, Phase Plants of the world. I, personally, find that more of a plus than a minus.

I use Falcon and Phase Plant and I'm really impressed by Avenger. It sounds great and it has incredible features but for my every day usage I like things Serum and Current.

[Gam456]

Glad to be of help..
But of course I think Avenger 2 which I have never played with only heard a few demos is great, the greatest synth ever...

the greatest synth ever... absolutely not

Of course it's the by far greatest synth, no other synth comes even close and obviously one of the most popular ones, just check how many pages the main thread has.
And the best thing is the fact that it's mainly a new creation, not just an emu like for instance Mini Moog used in a million songs (I know other devs also have created new synth, but quality-and featurewise and user-friendliness, well...)

That's your own opinion
For me it's crap.

[DCrown]

Glad to be of help..
But of course I think Avenger 2 which I have never played with only heard a few demos is great, the greatest synth ever...

the greatest synth ever... absolutely not

Of course it's the by far greatest synth, no other synth comes even close and obviously one of the most popular ones, just check how many pages the main thread has.
And the best thing is the fact that it's mainly a new creation, not just an emu like for instance Mini Moog used in a million songs (I know other devs also have created new synth, but quality-and featurewise and user-friendliness, well...)

That's your own opinion
For it's crap.

I checked the announced new features of v2 again and I agree it seems to be crap.
I am going to keep the old version.
You have convinced me!

[lolilol1975]

hi, if you want adventure, going places you never been before you need Reaktor, none of those hybrids can do what Reaktor can - building your own instruments and effects chains

yes and if you want even more adventure, learn C++ and program the real unique stuff...

Or SuperCollider if you are not keen on learning C++, and want to get results faster.

[micki]

Hello! Below are two examples of sounds that users can create with Current and Avenger 2, with no other plugins used. Please decide for yourself.
CURRENT -
(I decided not to use the company's advertising because, apart from CURRENT, they use other effects and sounds. In this video, you can see how it really is.)
Avenger 2
(This is one of the latest additions, but you will be able to understand the potential of Aveigner's sound design.That is, these are sounds that the user can create without using additional plugins.)
In other words, the sound you hear in the Avenger advertisement is the actual sound you will get. In 90% of cases, you won't need additional plugins. With other synthesizers, however, you will usually need additional effects and features.
Of course, Avenger 2 has Multi-Sample and samples in addition to various sound synthesis. But what's wrong with that if you can change everything to your liking? And you can change it in a couple of minutes.Many people use Native Instruments, don't they?
Most importantly, Avenger's workflow sets it apart from all other virtual synthesizers.
You can create the basis of a track on a single track in DAW and save it as a preset in Avenger. You can also use factory presets as templates for voice processing, for example.Or you can create your own presets/templates so you don't have to drag and drop them from project to project or from your DAW library. Simply put, Avenger 2 has far more capabilities than other synthesizers.
I wish everyone all the best.

[fisherKing]

personally, i never got either one. avenger 2 seems great for what it is, but it's not for me (we all make different kinds of music, like & use different plugins). there's no one perfect synth. i'd probably go with current tho...

[dune_rave]

Sadly, current will not offer such expansion like 90's eurodance vol2 in Vps Avenger....

[fisherKing]

Sadly, current will not offer such expansion like 90's eurodance vol2 in Vps Avenger....

was it supposed to? not sure what your point is... (& personally, am interested more in the present, than makings 1990's eurodance). which is why there's no right answer to 'current vs avenger 2'... just opinions

[Tj Shredder]

Both are certainly capable to support any genre. Its a synth!
If you think in eurodance, and are not capable to create the sounds yourself, you do not need to care about the synth and its capabilities, just buy presets…
The easiest for that is actually Synthmaster…