Looking for open back headphones for mixing - 1000€ budget

[fireapplered]

To add to someone mentioning the 650s being too nice to mix on and preferring the DT1990s, I'm absolutely the opposite - the 1990s sound more like hifi with that pronounced treble boost. The 650s are more or less flat as a pancake and pretty damn 'boring' to listen to, but so neutral and not tiring even after 14 hours non-stop. Really light too, but you already know that.

There is a peak at about 8k on the dt1990, adds a real sparkle to the sound, but easy to EQ out. I'm not sure I'd call them hifi, I'd say they are very dynamic and very balanced.

I use crave EQ with an oratory eq curve I got from the web and have saved as a preset. My mixes have translated really well with them. I also use waves nx for room simulation, which is also great.

The 650, for me, never translated that well. I'd do a mixes that would sound way off on the speakers (focal). They also felt quite lush and forgiving. I often wondered if the 600 would have suited me better, but I never tried them.
edit: I should try the EQ curve for the 650 and compare again.

Oh and the dt 1990 feel much more sturdy with a metal enclosure for the ear piece, compared to the plastic 650. DT are also very comfortable, maybe not quite as much as the 650.

Are you EQ'ing in the DAW?

[_leras]

To add to someone mentioning the 650s being too nice to mix on and preferring the DT1990s, I'm absolutely the opposite - the 1990s sound more like hifi with that pronounced treble boost. The 650s are more or less flat as a pancake and pretty damn 'boring' to listen to, but so neutral and not tiring even after 14 hours non-stop. Really light too, but you already know that.

There is a peak at about 8k on the dt1990, adds a real sparkle to the sound, but easy to EQ out. I'm not sure I'd call them hifi, I'd say they are very dynamic and very balanced.

I use crave EQ with an oratory eq curve I got from the web and have saved as a preset. My mixes have translated really well with them. I also use waves nx for room simulation, which is also great.

The 650, for me, never translated that well. I'd do a mixes that would sound way off on the speakers (focal). They also felt quite lush and forgiving. I often wondered if the 600 would have suited me better, but I never tried them.
edit: I should try the EQ curve for the 650 and compare again.

Oh and the dt 1990 feel much more sturdy with a metal enclosure for the ear piece, compared to the plastic 650. DT are also very comfortable, maybe not quite as much as the 650.

Are you EQ'ing in the DAW?

Yes. I EQ in the DAW and also run waves nx ocean way as a room simulation. Room, then EQ.

I find it works really well with the oratory eq correction curves, things translate really well.

[fireapplered]

To add to someone mentioning the 650s being too nice to mix on and preferring the DT1990s, I'm absolutely the opposite - the 1990s sound more like hifi with that pronounced treble boost. The 650s are more or less flat as a pancake and pretty damn 'boring' to listen to, but so neutral and not tiring even after 14 hours non-stop. Really light too, but you already know that.

There is a peak at about 8k on the dt1990, adds a real sparkle to the sound, but easy to EQ out. I'm not sure I'd call them hifi, I'd say they are very dynamic and very balanced.

I use crave EQ with an oratory eq curve I got from the web and have saved as a preset. My mixes have translated really well with them. I also use waves nx for room simulation, which is also great.

The 650, for me, never translated that well. I'd do a mixes that would sound way off on the speakers (focal). They also felt quite lush and forgiving. I often wondered if the 600 would have suited me better, but I never tried them.
edit: I should try the EQ curve for the 650 and compare again.

Oh and the dt 1990 feel much more sturdy with a metal enclosure for the ear piece, compared to the plastic 650. DT are also very comfortable, maybe not quite as much as the 650.

Are you EQ'ing in the DAW?

Yes. I EQ in the DAW and also run waves nx ocean way as a room simulation. Room, then EQ.

I find it works really well with the oratory eq correction curves, things translate really well.

Thanks for that. I've been waiting for the Audze MM-100 and these will be my plan B.