VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

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Gam456 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:02 pm
teilo wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:09 pm I have v.1, but I don't use it. I get the feeling that Avenger really isn't meant for expressive play, performance, or composition. It seems intent on being an ITB EDM workstation disguised as a plugin. I know that has an audience, but composers are not that audience.

So since I'm just not their target audience, I'm not going to denigrate them for this decision. As for me, a do-everything synth that lacks polyAT, much less MPE, is not remotely interesting unless it is offering something that cannot be found anywhere else. And I'm not seeing anything in this update that can't be found elsewhere.
No one is denigrating there is nothing wrong with that, it's just a fact
Always similar posts.
No, Avenger is for sure not for edm only, even if it's promoted mostly to be edm&co.
If you don't want to take the time to create your own presets, well, maybe not for you, even if you don't want to create your own presets, there are more than enough presets for composing.
One thing I don't really like is the way Avenger is presented (Bartek (yes, he is indeed funny) or simetimes Vengeance or that crazy synth guy) , so people might think it's a solo entertainer Casio keyboard, just hit one key and a complete song starts.
But it's way more than that. And I also use Avenger's internal Aftertouch to create my presets and you can play it real funky
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Gam456 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:02 pm
teilo wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:09 pm I have v.1, but I don't use it. I get the feeling that Avenger really isn't meant for expressive play, performance, or composition. It seems intent on being an ITB EDM workstation disguised as a plugin. I know that has an audience, but composers are not that audience.

So since I'm just not their target audience, I'm not going to denigrate them for this decision. As for me, a do-everything synth that lacks polyAT, much less MPE, is not remotely interesting unless it is offering something that cannot be found anywhere else. And I'm not seeing anything in this update that can't be found elsewhere.
No one is denigrating there is nothing wrong with that, it's just a fact
Silly me, here I am joyfully playing Avenger 2 all morning, using it in non-EDM compositions, and making patches of all kinds.

I wish someone would have told me "Avenger really isn't meant for expressive play, performance, or composition" before I upgraded.

Then I wouldn't have wasted all that time using it to play and compose..... :dog:

Now I'm going to go back and have some more fun playing, composing, and patching a really great synth. Do carry on.....
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Teksonik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:55 pm
Gam456 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:02 pm
teilo wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:09 pm I have v.1, but I don't use it. I get the feeling that Avenger really isn't meant for expressive play, performance, or composition. It seems intent on being an ITB EDM workstation disguised as a plugin. I know that has an audience, but composers are not that audience.

So since I'm just not their target audience, I'm not going to denigrate them for this decision. As for me, a do-everything synth that lacks polyAT, much less MPE, is not remotely interesting unless it is offering something that cannot be found anywhere else. And I'm not seeing anything in this update that can't be found elsewhere.
No one is denigrating there is nothing wrong with that, it's just a fact
Silly me, here I am joyfully playing Avenger 2 all morning, using it in non-EDM compositions, and making patches of all kinds.

I wish someone would have told me "Avenger really isn't meant for expressive play, performance, or composition" before I upgraded.

Then I wouldn't have wasted all that time using it to play and compose..... :dog:

Now I'm going to go back and have some more fun playing, composing, and patching a really great synth. Do carry on.....
How can you dare to not use it for edm?!
Haha
Well, your name tells us you might use it for "tekkno" haha
(btw I like all kinds of different music genres;)

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I'm really bugging out... I installed the Library content 1&2 with the V Manager and get the Icon of both in Avenger 2 but no bloody content. When I try to load through the SYS import then the Library/Factory data file is all of a sudden 0Bytes.
Been at it now for at least three hours... Anyone suffering the same BS?
I wish I hadn't upgraded the bloody thing now... What a farce:(
The Manual is still from the previous version and the site FAQ is a disaster.

For a premium product this is all a bit shabby...

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Maybe let's not freak out and give the devs the opportunity to solve the problems.

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Finally got the V2 installed.
For anyone experiencing something similar.
I deleted everything… content and V2 software. Downloaded the content and the V2 software from my account - NOT FROM V MANAGER - installed the plugin and then installed the content directly from Logic. You are first told you need to install the content from a pop up box - just one of the expansions - and you can then drag and drop the others directly into the factory window. Do not install with the SYS content window cos weird things happen.
The manual is a real dog when it comes to installation.
Got there in the end though… It is pretty EDM heavy though.

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question about backwards compatiblity, did you encounter any problems so far? im always sceptical ;).
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kelvyn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:10 pm I'm really bugging out... I installed the Library content 1&2 with the V Manager and get the Icon of both in Avenger 2 but no bloody content. When I try to load through the SYS import then the Library/Factory data file is all of a sudden 0Bytes.
Been at it now for at least three hours... Anyone suffering the same BS?
I wish I hadn't upgraded the bloody thing now... What a farce:(
The Manual is still from the previous version and the site FAQ is a disaster.

For a premium product this is all a bit shabby...
Just delete the factory 2 file and re download it. It worked for me on macOS

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It would be helpful if you guys mentioned which OS‘s you mean…. Which mac OS, which windows OS…

It (v2) has not worked on mojave (clean studio system (no cracks etc.))

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Zoopy wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:40 pmAny demo?

No demos.

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kkvvrr wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:01 am It would be helpful if you guys mentioned which OS‘s you mean…. Which mac OS, which windows OS…

It (v2) has not worked on mojave (clean studio system (no cracks etc.))
Somona.

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some summary
- there is no demo
- there is update 2.0.1 which should adress VMAN licensing problems
- its not for live play and composition (wonder what Bartek does there all the time)
- there are ONLY EDM sounds, we dont offer a single cinematic, ambient or vintage xp
- I cant give support here of course. But the support can: support@vengeance-sound.com

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msvs wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:53 am some summary
- there is no demo
- there is update 2.0.1 which should adress VMAN licensing problems
- its not for live play and composition (wonder what Bartek does there all the time)
- there are ONLY EDM sounds, we dont offer a single cinematic, ambient or vintage xp
- I cant give support here of course. But the support can: support@vengeance-sound.com
You forgot to mention that your real name is Michael 😂

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Jac459 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:02 am
msvs wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:53 am some summary
- there is no demo
- there is update 2.0.1 which should adress VMAN licensing problems
- its not for live play and composition (wonder what Bartek does there all the time)
- there are ONLY EDM sounds, we dont offer a single cinematic, ambient or vintage xp
- I cant give support here of course. But the support can: support@vengeance-sound.com
You forgot to mention that your real name is Michael 😂
or Miguel...it depends... :D

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