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Teksonik wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:41 pm
mabian wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:53 pm Couldn't it be simply humans leveraging ai to provide templates for best customer interaction, and I totally see how it could happen?
So you think he hired a "support team" to use A.I. instead of just using it himself? Or instead hire people who do know how to do competent human customer interaction?

Sure there are other possibilities but you're reading the same posts I am. I guess we're taking different opinions away from reading those posts.

To me they sound soulless and robotic. If that "annoys" you then I think you need to go for a walk and get some fresh air....:shrug:
It sounds like the Disco DSP "support team" went to the Dale Carnegie course for AI robotic response...

Light and fluffy with no substance and lacking in genuine empathy and integrity 🎯

BTW...do Disco DSP still acknowledge the real creators of OBxd in the credits ?

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mabian wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:11 pm Could be even himself rather than a support team.
You've lost sight of my salient point:
discoDSP wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:38 am George's (our CEO) new support team is real people, tackling your suggestions and questions head-on.
Again, I question whether a small developer with a portfolio of plugins that are barely relevant in 2023 could afford to hire a "support team with real people".

So basically I'm calling BS on that one.
mabian wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:11 pmcoming from such a reknown relaxed and hypertolerant guy 🙂
Hey you're the one who claimed to be "annoyed" by people who are pointing out what appears to be painfully obvious.
discoDSP wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:14 pm KVR community, rich in talent and passion for music technology, is the cornerstone of discoDSP's growth and evolution....bla bla bla
At any rate if that whole post doesn't read like a soulless Bot to you then it's obvious any further discussion with you on the subject is pointless.

Again I don't care if a developer who has trouble communicating with customers or potential customers uses A.I. if it helps them and those customers but at least admit it.

Don't posture by calling yourself the "CEO" and claiming to have a "support team of real humans" that are so incompetent at support that they need the help of A.I.

All that does is damage the reputation of the company and for a business reputation is everything. :shrug:
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chk071 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:10 pm
Teksonik wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:29 pm I don't care if developers who have issues interacting with people use A.I. to provide forward facing support but don't insult our intelligence. :uhuhuh:
Intelligence? Where? :hihi:
Oh it's here at KVR. You might have to look for it a bit deeper but I think there is a collective intelligence here that can smell BS when it's near. :P
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Teksonic's disdain for companies utilizing ChatGPT reflects a resistance to technological advancements in communication. Embracing tools like ChatGPT can enhance user experiences and foster dynamic discussions. Teksonic's perspective seems rooted in a reluctance to adapt to evolving technologies that contribute to the forum's vibrancy and inclusivity. Openness to innovation can enrich the community and encourage diverse perspectives.
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revvy wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:08 pm Teksonic's disdain for companies utilizing ChatGPT reflects a resistance to technological advancements in communication. Embracing tools like ChatGPT can enhance user experiences and foster dynamic discussions. Teksonic's perspective seems rooted in a reluctance to adapt to evolving technologies that contribute to the forum's vibrancy and inclusivity. Openness to innovation can enrich the community and encourage diverse perspectives.
Probably this is also being derived from chat gpt, but I think it gets totally to the point.
I get that we were politely asked by the admin to stay on topic while Teksonik once again didn't take the opportunity to accommodate the request and be again unneededly blatant.
My reaction is just thanking for the previous post and leaving the thread to its proper contents.

Words spent so far are more than enough and show their evidences.

Peace.

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revvy wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:08 pm Teksonic's disdain for companies utilizing ChatGPT reflects a resistance to technological advancements in communication. Embracing tools like ChatGPT can enhance user experiences and foster dynamic discussions. Teksonic's perspective seems rooted in a reluctance to adapt to evolving technologies that contribute to the forum's vibrancy and inclusivity. Openness to innovation can enrich the community and encourage diverse perspectives.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and imitating an AI reponse or not but in case you're being serious you need to work on your reading comprehension because I wrote more than once:
Teksonik wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:00 pm Again I don't care if a developer who has trouble communicating with customers or potential customers uses A.I. if it helps them and those customers but at least admit it.
It is not the use of A.I. it's the refusal to admit its use that bothers me. But if you think A.I. can provide better tech support than a live human trained in the operation of the software in question then again it's obvious any further discussion is pointless because you're simply not getting it..... :shrug:

I embrace all new technology but not everything new is an improvement over what was present before.
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mabian wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:25 pm I get that we were politely asked by the admin to stay on topic while Teksonik once again didn't take the opportunity to accommodate the request and be again unneededly blatant.
No an "admin" did not ask to stay on topic it was the George Bot and since we're not in a dedicated company forum but instead in the Instruments sub-forum he has no power or right to dictate the content of this thread.

This thread was started by the guy who originally coded OBxd before it was appropriated by DiscoDSP so he would be the closest thing to an "admin" in this thread which has gone on for over a decade now.

DiscoDSP doesn't get to just come in here and tell people what they can or can not post just because George Bot is offended by what is written.

But keep genuflecting. When you're on your knees you'll find the view never changes. :wink:
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but not everything new is an improvement over what was present before.
This is so true.
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Hey mabian and revvy, thanks for weighing in on the whole situation. Really appreciate how you keep things chill and constructive in the forum.

It's kinda bumming everyone out to see the same folks stirring up drama in the forum, even after all this time. We're all about hearing different views, but it's cool when everyone shares them in a respectful way.

We've given this issue plenty of airtime already. Time to pivot to more upbeat and productive convos. Big thanks for getting it and for being such a key part of our community.

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@Teksonik. Why do you behave like you do? Every thread. Chill out and stop being like you do
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Thanks for the update. Will the other skins (e. g. the "Classic" skin) be updated as well?

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Yes, we're definitely working on more skins for the upcoming updates. This includes updating some of our existing skins, to make sure they match the new look and features we're rolling out. Stay tuned for these exciting updates in our future releases!

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DiscoGPT

Love it!

(And love the guys at DiscoDSP...great work!)

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Announcing OB-Xd 3.1 RC3 for Windows, macOS, and Linux

We are thrilled to announce the latest update to our flagship software, OB-Xd 3.1 Release Candidate 3 (RC3), now available for Windows, macOS, and Linux. This update brings significant improvements and new features, ensuring an even more robust and enjoyable experience for all our users.

What's New in OB-Xd 3.1 RC3?
  • LFO Tempo Sync Fix: We have addressed and resolved the issue with LFO tempo synchronization, ensuring smoother and more accurate performance across all platforms.
  • Revised PDF Manual: The OB-Xd manual has been updated and revised for clarity and comprehensiveness. This new manual provides better guidance and support, making it easier for users to harness the full potential of OB-Xd.
  • Minor Stability Enhancements: Following our commitment to provide a stable and reliable experience, this version includes minor stability enhancements, particularly focusing on the user experience across different operating systems.
Availability:
  • For Registered Users: OB-Xd 3.1 RC3 is available in the Members Area. We encourage our registered users to download this update for the latest features and improvements https://www.discodsp.net/
  • Free Version on OB-Xd Page: We also continue to support the community with a free version of OB-Xd 3.1 RC3, which can be downloaded from the OB-Xd page on our website https://www.discodsp.com/obxd/
Thank you for your continued support, and we hope you enjoy the new and improved OB-Xd 3.1 RC3!

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Teksonik wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:36 pm
revvy wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:08 pm Teksonic's disdain for companies utilizing ChatGPT reflects a resistance to technological advancements in communication. Embracing tools like ChatGPT can enhance user experiences and foster dynamic discussions. Teksonic's perspective seems rooted in a reluctance to adapt to evolving technologies that contribute to the forum's vibrancy and inclusivity. Openness to innovation can enrich the community and encourage diverse perspectives.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and imitating an AI reponse or not but in case you're being serious you need to work on your reading comprehension because I wrote more than once:
Teksonik wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:00 pm Again I don't care if a developer who has trouble communicating with customers or potential customers uses A.I. if it helps them and those customers but at least admit it.
It is not the use of A.I. it's the refusal to admit its use that bothers me. But if you think A.I. can provide better tech support than a live human trained in the operation of the software in question then again it's obvious any further discussion is pointless because you're simply not getting it..... :shrug:

I embrace all new technology but not everything new is an improvement over what was present before.
I agree. I it feels somewhat to me like the Great Wizard of Oz hiding behind the curtain. Once Toto pulled back the curtain, the real man that spoke was much better to me. I hate facades. There is no question that George is the person behind the curtain. If he wants to sound more pleasant by using A.I., that's great! I probably wouldn't have been turned off to the A.I. presence in the beginning if he had just said that it was him. Doubling down and saying he has a staff and is a CEO (regardless of if he is actually the CEO of a one person company or not) just makes it feel worse to me. I noticed that George's appropriation of openly sourced projects has become somewhat of a joke. I saw a post the other day wondering when George is going to be offering Vaporizer 2 with a new skin. I don't mean this in any bad way, and I do really want George to succeed. But cultures around the world differ, and to some of us, George not admitting that he is George and talking as himself seems false. Like I said, I have no problem with George using A.I. to improve his demeanor, but at least say that it is George speaking, through A.I., rather than pretending it is a "staff". Hiring a Freelance programmer for updates, and calling that person a "staff" is questionable.

OK, in order to not derail the thread, and in order to keep my post on topic, I want to again thank George for being one of the original supporters of Linux plugins, and I again offer a hearty thank you for not adding the C/R copy protection to the Linux builds! Congratulations for the OB-xd 3.x release! :)

P.S. I have tried to explain my view very respectfully, and also stay on topic. Please don't read my comment as trying to cause problems. I am just trying to explain a cultural point of view that others may not recognize. :)
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