no legend for y-axis (vertical) of waveform view

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How to make visible the legend for the y-axis (vertical) of the view showing graphically a waveform?
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A question to the long time users, as I only recently joined, right away with WF 12.5.11 (first FREE, recently PRO):

Did a legend for the vertical axis appeared in older versions, some dB scale, shown for the clips or tracks, or maybe in the Track Editor or elsewhere?

If not, how do you estimate the noise level of a recording for removing it?
How do you estimate the threshold for compressing or limiting for damping some few outlier peaks in a recording?
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I don't remember there ever being one. My monitoring has always been Span, or these days any number of third party plugins. Plus I rely on the UI of my compressor/limiter/clipper for peak reduction. And ears...

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talby wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:48 pm A question to the long time users, as I only recently joined, right away with WF 12.5.11 (first FREE, recently PRO):

Did a legend for the vertical axis appeared in older versions, some dB scale, shown for the clips or tracks, or maybe in the Track Editor or elsewhere?

If not, how do you estimate the noise level of a recording for removing it?
How do you estimate the threshold for compressing or limiting for damping some few outlier peaks in a recording?
Do you mean a scale displayed next to meters? If so, there are several options. In the mixer view, use the broadest one, there is a scale next to each meter. Alternatively, if you click the level meter plugin (usually at the very end of your plugin chain), you can see the loudness down there in that universal area. Make sure it's enlarged. The third method is, when you're recording tracks, you can hit F12 and large horizontal meters appear across each track.
BTW, does anybody know a proper name of that universal area down there? :-D
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The Properties pane? Many of use Pough's term for it: the Useful menu.
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I think Talby means a method to look at the static rendered waveform in graphical form with a scale?? So you can zoom in and see a peak at -8.4 or the noise floor at -57db etc.

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I think Talby means a method to look at the static rendered waveform in graphical form with a scale?? So you can zoom in and see a peak at -8.4 or the noise floor at -57db etc.
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Exactly this.
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UnionS8 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:44 am BTW, does anybody know a proper name of that universal area down there? :-D
It's called the controls panel when you hover over it to show/hide in the eye up at the top right.

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Does any DAW have that? I just checked Reaper, FL Studio and EXT64. None of them seem to have that information. I'm surprised that I've never noticed before.

Is the y-axis dB? I think it might be something different.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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In Ocenaudio it by default is dB(FS) and can be configured to show it for True Peak, Sample Peak or Loudness (LUFS). In Audacity it is by default a linear scale from 0 (bottom) to 1 (top). It can also be configured to dB (linear) or dB (logarithmic).
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Yes, audio editors tend to have it, but it doesn't seem like DAWs do. I'm not sure about the reasoning either way.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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