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kylie wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:46 pm It might not fall under your (and of course Richards) definition of "Free Software". Maybe you would feel better if it was declared "free of charge" ? In the end, it's a trial, and most people know what the purpose of trial software is.
It is not my definition, it is the definition that was created by the Free Software Foundation back in 1985 when it was founded by Richard Stallman (several years after the Personal Computing Revolution of the late 70's and early 80's). This definition has been around for almost 40 years.

But to your point, when the average joe thinks of 'Free' Software, they are thinking of free as in no cost (GRATIS instead of LIBRE, No Cost instead of Liberty).

My fork of OB-Xd will be both Gratis and Libre. My fork of OB-Xd will not restrict the end user in any such way and I will not charge a single dime for it. And I will do my best to keep the code maintained so that it can work both within Linux and Windows.
kylie wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:46 pm
They acquired a license from the original developer for exactly that purpose. It was his decision to set the code on github free under GPL-3 and hand over code to DiscoDSP under a different license. They could not have moved on without his agreement. I don't see why whis is the fault of DiscoDSP.
I am having a hard time understanding what it is that you are trying to say, so I am going to reply to what you literally said. With regard to the specific act of DiscoDSP closing the code, that is most certainly DiscoDSP's fault because they ultimately made the decision to close the code. Unless some other entity or person forced DiscoDSP to close the code, how is DiscoDSP 'absolved' from their decision to close the code?

I am guessing what you meant to say is something along the lines of "why are you upset by their decision to close the code?"
My apologies if I am about to sound like a "FOSS Zealot", I am not trying to knock anyone for not knowing what FOSS Advocates are trying to fight for. I am going to go out on a limb and guess that the concepts of Software Freedom and Software Rights are not at the forefront of your mind. I am also going to bet that you are unable to name the 4 Essential Freedoms that define Libre Software, what particular order those 4 freedoms are in, and what numbering those freedoms are in (the first essential freedom is actually freedom '0', not freedom '1'). And don't worry, 99.9% of the world has no idea of these things, nor do they care.

The GPL3 license that the OB-Xd source code was released under protects the end user from restrictions that a Developer may try to impose. Generally, when a developer releases their code under the GPL, they keep it open and allow for the end user to review, make changes, fork, copy, redistribute, and run the code/program without restrictions. With DiscoDSP closing the code after release 2.10, no one outside of DiscoDSP will be able to do all those things freely. And with the further improvements made since 2.10, if DiscoDSP goes belly up and the source code after release 2.10 is not made public, then those changes are lost. This is what I am most upset about when it comes to closing the code. It has absolutely nothing to do with DiscoDSP's decision to make money.

And from a Business Standpoint, I get it. Closing the source code would more than likely force people to buy a license to use OB-Xd for commercial purposes. After all, one of the reasons that I use Linux as my operating system is because it is zero cost to me, it runs awesomely fast on antiquated hardware (so I get a savings from not having to constantly buy and upgrade computers), and it doesn't restrict or box me in.

I can't emphasize enough that the OB-Xd synth is awesome. Hence, the reason I want to preserve the GPL'd Source Code and Maintain and Release Libre Binaries of my fork of OB-Xd to everyone.

Honestly, I am more worried about everyone losing an awesome tool in the event that DiscoDSP goes defunct. Just like I am worried about everyone losing Martin Luder's PG-8X which is a Roland JX-8P Synth Emulator Plugin which has the ability to play the most beautiful pad ever made, 'SOUNDTRACK'. Last I checked, Martin is working kinks out of his code before open sourcing it.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and youtube 'JX-8P Soundtrack' and then try to convince themselves that the sound shouldn't be preserved. Trust me when I say that the Soundtrack preset also sounds awesome on PG-8X.

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We're excited to announce the release of OB-Xd 3.1 hotfix update today, which brings important bug fixes and functionality improvements to enhance your experience with the OB-Xd synth. As always, we value your feedback and thank you for helping us refine our product.

You can download the latest version from our website https://www.discodsp.com/obxd/ Happy synthesizing!

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Hmm when come to think of, since the free licence doesnt allow for commercial use, i think its a safer and better bet to just get Synapses Obsession which is modelen according to the OBXA where's 2Dat version is just inspired.

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Lbdunequest wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:29 am Hmm when come to think of, since the free licence doesnt allow for commercial use, i think its a safer and better bet to just get Synapses Obsession which is modelen according to the OBXA where's 2Dat version is just inspired.
OB-Xd is half the price of Obsession. The latter might sound more accurate but OB-Xd is still a good synth and IMO it's a lot better to use.

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Vortifex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:00 pm
Lbdunequest wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:29 am Hmm when come to think of, since the free licence doesnt allow for commercial use, i think its a safer and better bet to just get Synapses Obsession which is modelen according to the OBXA where's 2Dat version is just inspired.
OB-Xd is half the price of Obsession. The latter might sound more accurate but OB-Xd is still a good synth and IMO it's a lot better to use.
The price difference i wouldnt say huge for what you get which is sound quality, mod matrix, more LFO, FX, much better preset browser.

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Yeager wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:16 pm
Vortifex wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:42 pm
discoDSP wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:23 am Image

OB-Xd 3.1 is out now!
Also there's a bug with VST2 version in Windows. Enabling Step will make the oscillator tuning step between semitones as it's supposed to, but when you close and re-open the interface it no longer steps between semitones even though the button is still enabled.
Not only that it also did not recall the setting of anything after reloading a project.
vst2 version on Win10 FLStudio.

EDIT Reaper recalls the settings OK, but the step bug is there also.
The FLStudio recall bug is solved with the latest update, the Step button works, but visually it's not, it shows 19.3 but its 19.0 or something like that.

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discoDSP wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:03 am Image

We're excited to announce the release of OB-Xd 3.1 hotfix update today, which brings important bug fixes and functionality improvements to enhance your experience with the OB-Xd synth. As always, we value your feedback and thank you for helping us refine our product.

You can download the latest version from our website https://www.discodsp.com/obxd/ Happy synthesizing!
Pressing right mouse button for a context menu pop up it opens up many pixels away from the mouse cursor. If its somewhere on the right bottom, you cant see the pop up.

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Vortifex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:41 am Attempt number 3: how do I create a new bank of presets?
- Rightclick -> Banks -> Select '019 Blank Canvas'
- Make a load of presets for your new bank
- Rightclick -> File -> Export Bank

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We're pleased to announce a new hotfix for the OB-Xd 3.1 synth today on December 19. This update specifically addresses the issue where the right-click was displaying the popup menu at incorrect coordinates.

Thanks to your feedback, we've quickly identified and resolved this to ensure a more accurate and user-friendly experience.

You can download the updated version from https://www.discodsp.com/obxd/ now. We appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the improved functionality!

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When can we download it, the file is still from december 18 as we speak (windows).

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rfawcett wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:03 am
kylie wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:46 pm It might not fall under your (and of course Richards) definition of "Free Software". Maybe you would feel better if it was declared "free of charge" ? In the end, it's a trial, and most people know what the purpose of trial software is.
It is not my definition, it is the definition that was created by the Free Software Foundation back in 1985 when it was founded by Richard Stallman (several years after the Personal Computing Revolution of the late 70's and early 80's). This definition has been around for almost 40 years.

But to your point, when the average joe thinks of 'Free' Software, they are thinking of free as in no cost (GRATIS instead of LIBRE, No Cost instead of Liberty).
And you should accept this as it is, as much as you want others to accept your point of view. I did not say that the common opinion is better than yours or Richards. Only I wanted to point out that "the other" definition of free is much more widespread.
kylie wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:46 pm
They acquired a license from the original developer for exactly that purpose. It was his decision to set the code on github free under GPL-3 and hand over code to DiscoDSP under a different license. They could not have moved on without his agreement. I don't see why whis is the fault of DiscoDSP.
With regard to the specific act of DiscoDSP closing the code, that is most certainly DiscoDSP's fault because they ultimately made the decision to close the code.
It was not their fault but their intention. Just because you would like to see them act like you do it ist not automatically a fault. Thinking so would be somewhat bold, wouldn't it?
I am guessing what you meant to say is something along the lines of "why are you upset by their decision to close the code?"

The GPL3 license that the OB-Xd source code was released under protects the end user from restrictions that a Developer may try to impose. Generally, when a developer releases their code under the GPL, they keep it open and allow for the end user to review, make changes, fork, copy, redistribute, and run the code/program without restrictions. With DiscoDSP closing the code after release 2.10, no one outside of DiscoDSP will be able to do all those things freely. And with the further improvements made since 2.10, if DiscoDSP goes belly up and the source code after release 2.10 is not made public, then those changes are lost. This is what I am most upset about when it comes to closing the code. It has absolutely nothing to do with DiscoDSP's decision to make money.
Wasn't that you who said that the version that was GPL'ed was perfect sounding enough so it would not even have been necessary to add closed source additions? What are you afraid to lose if DiscoDSP should indeed close down and not make their code available for the rest of the world? Sorry, I don't get that.
And from a Business Standpoint, I get it. Closing the source code would more than likely force people to buy a license to use OB-Xd for commercial purposes.
The main point - in my opinion - is that closing the source allows them to integrate either stuff that is their IP they don't want to make public (at least at this point) and possibly external stuff they have no license for to integrate this into an open source package. Some licenses just don't mix well.
The open souce version delivers everything you need, right? So be happy about having it, and let other people be happy to have a - still cheap - version that is maintained by a developer, compiled and tested for their systems and fixed in a timely manner if something is broken (as you can see some posts above).
Honestly, I am more worried about everyone losing an awesome tool
Why ? You can't lose the GPL'ed version you love so much. You forked it. They can't take it away from you, right? So what? Instead of pointing at a certain developer you better go out and evangelize all of them closed source developers out there. You're wasting your time nitpicking on DiscoDSP alone... Sorry.

I'm off, downloading the latest build. Goodbye.

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Yeager wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:29 pm When can we download it, the file is still from december 18 as we speak (windows).
The version I just downloaded is from ~7:30 pm, so packaged between the error report and the announcement of the fix. I would say after a minute testing that the menu does not pop up anywhere but close to the cursor.

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kylie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 am
Yeager wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:29 pm When can we download it, the file is still from december 18 as we speak (windows).
The version I just downloaded is from ~7:30 pm, so packaged between the error report and the announcement of the fix. I would say after a minute testing that the menu does not pop up anywhere but close to the cursor.
The one I'm downloading now (windows) is from 30 November, so something is not right.......

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