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liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:45 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:34 pm
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:29 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:23 pm :hihi:
:hug:
I still have Bitwig and TWO :o :dog: renewal codes :cry:
Really? Why two? That makes you look like a Bitwig fanatic :)
I do like Bitwig, don’t let my love for Ableton doubt that. It was a good deal and it was a way to support the developers.
The only thing I miss is CLAP :love:
Ah, good to know.
I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
Its over for Bitwig--CUBASE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm
I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
Seems inevitable...

Would be great if Ableton added DAW Project support too!

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pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:59 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm
I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
Seems inevitable...

Would be great if Ableton added DAW Project support too!
How does the Grid fits in the DAW Project protocols?
I’m asking because Ableton has M4L and it must be problematic for the DAW Project, or perhaps I didn’t get the technical aspect since I was not interested at first….
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:45 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:34 pm
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:29 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:23 pm :hihi:
:hug:
I still have Bitwig and TWO :o :dog: renewal codes :cry:
Really? Why two? That makes you look like a Bitwig fanatic :)
I do like Bitwig, don’t let my love for Ableton doubt that. It was a good deal and it was a way to support the developers.
The only thing I miss is CLAP :love:
Ah, good to know.
I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
That would be really great BUT then… my 2 renewal codes would be a total loss :cry: :hihi:
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:03 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:59 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm
I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
Seems inevitable...

Would be great if Ableton added DAW Project support too!
How does the Grid fits in the DAW Project protocols?
I’m asking because Ableton has M4L and it must be problematic for the DAW Project, or perhaps I didn’t get the technical aspect since I was not interested at first….
DAW Project supports midi clips, audio, automation, track settings and 3rd party plugins... not DAW devices obviously cause they are unique to each DAW.

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liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:06 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
That would be really great BUT then… my 2 renewal codes would be a total loss :cry: :hihi:
Don't worry. Even when Live adopts CLAP, it will not have PolyMod and Voice Stacking. Your renewal codes will still be secure! :tu:

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pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:05 pm
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:06 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
That would be really great BUT then… my 2 renewal codes would be a total loss :cry: :hihi:
Don't worry. Even when Live adopts CLAP, it will not have PolyMod and Voice Stacking. Your renewal codes will still be secure! :tu:
I’m always ready to be surprised. :hyper:
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:14 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:05 pm
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:06 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
That would be really great BUT then… my 2 renewal codes would be a total loss :cry: :hihi:
Don't worry. Even when Live adopts CLAP, it will not have PolyMod and Voice Stacking. Your renewal codes will still be secure! :tu:
I’m always ready to be surprised. :hyper:
Someone has to be optimistic I guess :D
Always Read the Manual!

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By the way, I'd like to point out. The Reactor, as my secret third nominee, has been reduced to under 100 euros, and this is now a problem.

On one hand, version 6.5 has been released(VST3, Silicon compatibility), and on the other hand, the modules from toyboxaudio can be synchronized with the host,

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and since there is direct MIDI routing under StudioOne, they can be used as a modulation source (the question is, to what extent does someone use audio rate modulators) ... replanning :D ( t's worth noting that while most of the packages are there, there's a permanent Black Friday on https://www.toyboxaudio.com/ )

because otherwise S1 obviously doesn't operate in the same league as AL and BWS, 695vs531,535 - https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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xbitz wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:02 pm (the question is, to what extent does someone use audio rate modulators)
Eurorack has entered the chat :lol:
Always Read the Manual!

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PieBerger wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:32 pm
xbitz wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:02 pm (the question is, to what extent does someone use audio rate modulators)
Eurorack has entered the chat :lol:
if this is how it ends, I won't turn onto this path :D

It's already bad enough that Black Friday now lasts for two months

ps. actually, the Softube Modular sounds great, it's just not synchronizable with the host playhead position, unlike the modules of Toybox Audio which have a position input, as seen in the picture above
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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PieBerger wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:06 am
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:14 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:05 pm
liquidsound wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:06 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:55 pm I´m confident that Ableton will join the CLAP wagon :tu:
That would be really great BUT then… my 2 renewal codes would be a total loss :cry: :hihi:
Don't worry. Even when Live adopts CLAP, it will not have PolyMod and Voice Stacking. Your renewal codes will still be secure! :tu:
I’m always ready to be surprised. :hyper:
Someone has to be optimistic I guess :D
It ALWAYS works! :tu:
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Wow! Wait!
I haven’t use BW for a long time, approximately since that issue with those 3(?) devices drama occurred (I mean, rarely).
My license was not active months prior to the issue.

Today I was listening to some of my old tracks in BW and… those devices are in my setup!
I was no supposed to have them based on the their release time and my license timeout.

If that was not a mistake (and I don’t think it was) that’s a hell of a gesture from them to include my inactive license (2 or 3 months) in the release process.

My respect!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Voice Stack is sick in Bitwig! Today I've learnt how to use it and I believe it can do (with the Random module) great analog sounds if designed carefully. I'm going to use Polysynth to see if I can reach the quality of Diva pad sounds (for example).
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.

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