Any plans to build something like VSX headphone mixing?

[mccy]

I'm really tempted to buy the vsx for headphone mixing. Are there any plans to jump on that headphone-mixing train? Is vsx mainly impulse responses and headphone curve correction or is there something really special going on?

[Hexspa]

In the mean time, Realphones is on sale with a 41-day trial. That's what I use and it's just the basic 3-profile version since you can switch them out any time (Etymotic ER2SE, AKG K240 Studio, and the 7Hz Linsoul Salnotes Zero I'm currently using though I don't think they have a profile for it).

I'm not an expert in this tech but they tend to model a Head-Related Transfer Curve and add cross feed. It doesn't seem "special" per-se but every dev seems to have their own recipe. That said I do think seeing them as specialized filters for checking your mix - especially the bass - is worth whatever you're willing to pay.

[Frankie.T]

I think these kinds of products works more for marketing than technicals.

Nothing can really push the hardware limitation of headphones, and any kind of eq comes with a different phase or some weird filtering (if linear phase), so you never listen to the real song, but something different, and this is bad.

The only things that make sense is crossfeed, but this is not really important too, if you listen to some music with your headphones

[mccy]

Thanks! Sounds reasonable. I tried using HRIR impulses & Morphit and experimented, what happens when making IRs from Realphones. I think I don't need special software & will experiment further.

[Hexspa]

I think these kinds of products works more for marketing than technicals.

Nothing can really push the hardware limitation of headphones, and any kind of eq comes with a different phase or some weird filtering (if linear phase), so you never listen to the real song, but something different, and this is bad.

The only things that make sense is crossfeed, but this is not really important too, if you listen to some music with your headphones

I disagree with this, as will a number of users of such products. It doesn't matter what you're listening to, really, so long as the end result is better translation. If you could move video noise around with a magnet to mix then that would be fine if it worked.

Many headphones have very low distortion which means you can boost the low frequencies and still maintain high levels of accuracy. What's more, headphones allow you to hear levels of detail not always possible with speakers in a room, even with treatment and high end speakers; Tycho is on record saying as much.

Ultimately it comes down to whether these tools work for you. Too many people try to impose rules, shoulds and shouldn'ts on music when, at the end of the day, people are indeed using these and other tools to create the music thousands are listening to every day.

Realphones helps me listen to bass at 2am in an apartment. Therefore it's worth it to me.

[Frankie.T]

Ofc everythings depends on what you try to achieve.

If what you are looking for it's a different listening, that may sound better for you, this could be a solution to fix bad heapdhones.

Cause something that sound better may help you to feel the songs vibe or whatever.

Although if you need these kind of tools, for mixing/mastering you will just listen something different, and your decision will be taken from something that isn't what your music is.

Just try to imagine to chose a dress or a car with glasses that change the color, so what you see is not what's in the reality.
So you will pick a beautiful red Ferrari (with your glasses on) then when you leave them, you discover that your Ferrari is yellow.

Anyway i don't try to change anyone minds, if someone is happy with that kind of solutions, i'm happy for him, i'm just sharing my thought