UAD still worth it?

[jamcat]

I also don’t like iLok Cloud. I remember the olden days back when the mere suggestion of connecting a music computer to the internet would have seen you tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. PACE and UAD ought to know better. And Roland, too.

But I don’t mind machine-based iLok at all. I really wish that was an option. iLok dongles just really suck on a laptop. They’re a liability waiting to happen. I have a 2nd gen iLok locked inside my Windows desktop, where it is safe from the liability of damage, theft, or getting lost. I will probably begrudgingly spend the $55 on a 3rd generation USB-C iLok for my MacBook just because of UAD. But I will not be happy about it.

[Mind Riot]

actually stating that permanent internet connection is not required

It's not.

You need only be online momentarily to transfer the licenses to an ILok, then no further internet connection is required.

Please explain how a permanent connection is required after you've transferred your licenses to an iLok.

This does not seem at all difficult to understand to me. You just seem like you don't like iLok (which is totally fine) so you pretend it doesn't exist when you make your arguments (which is dishonest and hurts your credibility).

[Mind Riot]

I also don’t like iLok Cloud. I remember the olden days back when the mere suggestion of connecting a music computer to the internet would have seen you tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.

I remember those days. The days when the Pentium 4 reigned supreme, and everyone was constantly tweaking their Windows XP machines to try to get their latency down to less than ten milliseconds, when none of us knew that soon the dual core CPU was going to come and blow our minds. We were all so innocent.

[noiseboyuk]

This does not seem at all difficult to understand to me. You just seem like you don't like iLok (which is totally fine) so you pretend it doesn't exist when you make your arguments (which is dishonest and hurts your credibility).

Exactly this.

[Hanz Meyzer]

My god, some people here seem to be unable to properly read (and think).

Disconnect your ilok dongle, disable network and try to use an uaudio plugin. It won't work. It communicates all the time via the ilok license manager process. You can also block this one using a firewall and see.

Now read the written requirements here, which also do not appear while ordering process, but have to, according EU law: viewtopic.php?p=8821543#p8821543

It says that you only need internet to activate/authorize the plugins. Nowhere is written that you need a PERMANENT internet connection to use it.

It also implies that an ILOK dongle was NOT required at all.

It says that it uses ilok cloud, but this does not imply that you need a PERMANENT internet connection. For example, your mac won't stop to work, if you haven't an iCloud online connection.

Really these comments are disgustingly ignorant.

[gaggle of hermits]

My god, some people here seem to be unable to properly read (and think).

Disconnect your ilok dongle, disable network and try to use an uaudio plugin...

I'm not sure it's the other people who have the comprehension problem here.

your persistence is really something. but maybe you could consider what else you could be doing with your life right now.

[revvy]

I would consider UAD if they had machine iLok. Dongle or cloud isn’t for me.

[noiseboyuk]

Disconnect your ilok dongle, disable network and try to use an uaudio plugin. It won't work.

Disconnect the electricity while you're at it - won't work then either.

I don't like popcorn emojis, but watching this relentless digging towards the earth's core is grimly fascinating.

[jamcat]

Disconnect your ilok dongle, disable network and try to use an uaudio plugin. It won't work.

So what you’re saying is if I remove the authorization system, the plugins won’t work?

What next? Will UA insist I install the plugins on my computer to be able to use them, too?

[comfortablynick]

It also implies that an ILOK dongle was NOT required at all.

Where? I thought it was pretty clear that you need either a dongle or iLok Cloud. Anyone with a passing familiarity with the iLok system knows that iLok Cloud needs an internet connection. It's a trade-off for those who don't want to use a dongle. Machine auth is only available on the free LA-2A AFAIK.

[elxsound]

Not sure if anyone has this experience but i tried mixing a jamuary project in Luna on an arm processor MacBook, but bringing the same projects to the Intel machine, crushes the CPU. Lots of stuttering.

The crazy bit is that the same plugins used in other hosts don’t consume as much as they do in LUNA.

No instruments, just moderate use of effects.

Anyone else run into something similar?

[Mind Riot]

Re pultec vs massive passive.

The pultec mid bands are much tighter

Thanks for the heads up.

[jens]

UAD are relatively harmless - Asus are way worse: after I removed my laptop's battery the whole thing would not at all run anymore
without the power-supply being plugged into an outlet! Can you believe that? Asus claim it's a mobile solution, but in fact it requires a power-outlet to run - completely outrageous!

[Mind Riot]

Really these comments are disgustingly ignorant.

Tell me about it! There's some dumbass running around talking about permanent internet connections or god knows what and he seems like he's just incapable of understanding a dongle.

I swear, it's like watching some kid with Down's Syndrome walk into the same sliding glass door over and over when his mom is in the bathroom and can't come to open it for him.



Oh, I'm just kidding around with you, Mr. Meyzer. My areas of disagreement with you still stand, but I can see your point. If there's confusion about authorization, and especially if that confusion spills over into actual use, then UA need to write their instructions better.

[ghettosynth]

UAD are relatively harmless - Asus are way worse: after I removed my laptop's battery the whole thing would not at all run anymore
without the power-supply being plugged into an outlet! Can you believe that? Asus claim it's a mobile solution, but in fact it requires a power-outlet to run - completely outrageous!

This is an industry wide conspiracy. All of my laptops work this way. Surely this is illegal?