Comparing 30 VSTi Supersaws (MYR one)

[Urs]

I can not speak for other devs, but it is by far the most CPU efficient method I know of, that also offers the quality I'd expect from a modern synth.

If we’re instead looking for the quality of a 90’s synth (JP-8000), what would be the Hive settings to get us there?

Dunno. We have Diva for that.

[Uncle E]

If we’re instead looking for the quality of a 90’s synth (JP-8000), what would be the Hive settings to get us there?

Dunno. We have Diva for that.

oh, good to know. What would be the best Diva settings for that? Is there a preset that best emulates that sound?

[Aiynzahev]

I did a bank on the JP, all the trance classics I could come up with at the time. Later I recreated these with Diva. I think the oscillator section is very accurate, maybe close enough to identical but I only compared by ear. Where they differ though is after the oscillator section. The filters and the tone controls in the JP make a big difference to my ear.

Urs, one thing I was curious about, It seems like there’s some saturation in Diva when using the digital osc into the filters. Is that the case or are the filters designed to always add some saturation? I hear it especially when making pad sounds on the digital osc. You hear it very clearly with the Moog filter, but it seems like it’s there a bit on the others too.

[Urs]

Well, yeah, we might eventually have to add a more neutral filter model to Diva. They colour a lot more than what a JP8000 would need. A JP-style simple Treble/Bass EQ might help as well.

(Hive's filters don't distort unless resonance is cranked up, as this is what IMHO sounds best for supersaw)

[Uncle E]

I did a bank on the JP, all the trance classics I could come up with at the time. Later I recreated these with Diva.

Thank you. If these are some of the default presets, what author name would we find them under? If they're available separately, where can we get them?

[xbitz]

I did a bank on the JP, all the trance classics I could come up with at the time. Later I recreated these with Diva.

Thank you. If these are some of the default presets, what author name would we find them under? If they're available separately, where can we get them?

the classic ones in the
https://www.aiynzahev-sounds.com/collections/diva section, I think

[Uncle E]

Thank you

[hurricaneaudiolab]

If you're a Reason user we did a Supersaw refill and I did a few presets for Hive:

(no need to login or create an account)
https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=7517930

google drive link in first forum post.

[_leras]

I don't have a synthesizer like that, so let's ask Master Aiyn Zahev to demo it a bit. I was curious about it

https://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/helio ... for-corona

https://www.aiynzahev-sounds.com/collec ... for-corona

Gotta say that really does capture some of the old classic trance sounds really well, especially some of the arp parts. Wish there were some more examples.

He's a great sound designer. I didn't think his Diva recreations of classic jp8000 sounds was that close, I wonder if this would get closer.

[_leras]

Well, yeah, we might eventually have to add a more neutral filter model to Diva. They colour a lot more than what a JP8000 would need. A JP-style simple Treble/Bass EQ might help as well.

(Hive's filters don't distort unless resonance is cranked up, as this is what IMHO sounds best for supersaw)

Hive (and maybe Bazille) filters in Diva would be a great update.

I'm sure you're not short of ideas, but a modern spline curve based envelope option would also be very cool.

[_leras]

I did a bank on the JP, all the trance classics I could come up with at the time. Later I recreated these with Diva.

Thank you. If these are some of the default presets, what author name would we find them under? If they're available separately, where can we get them?

the classic ones in the
https://www.aiynzahev-sounds.com/collections/diva section, I think

These are the JP sounds



Unfortunately the Diva ones aren't that close to the actual jp.

[BONES]

Corona is missing.

I'd never heard of it until I read this but it looks like a neat little piece of kit. I'll definitely have to check it out.

[Uncle E]

Embarrassing how much I enjoyed that. Who has balloon?

[Digivolt]

Unfortunately the Diva ones aren't that close to the actual jp.

I love Diva and I love Sami's presets based on the JP sounds but it's like he says, as soon you start using the filter you notice the differences, that's not to say they are bad, but they're not quite the same

[Aiynzahev]

Well, yeah, we might eventually have to add a more neutral filter model to Diva. They colour a lot more than what a JP8000 would need. A JP-style simple Treble/Bass EQ might help as well.

(Hive's filters don't distort unless resonance is cranked up, as this is what IMHO sounds best for supersaw)

A clean filter and tone controls would make for a nice practical addition for programming other sounds too.