Discovery Pro synthesizer 6.4 to 8.0 REBOOT

[gaggle of hermits]

Software developers are out of control.

Imagine being at the whims of a hardware manufacturer, after you had already paid for their gear. And yet still had to regularly email them, to beg them to allow you to turn it on , just to actually use your hardware, lest it be rendered 'completely non-functioning.' Not to mention, praying that said (borderline-abusive) company didn't subsequently go out of business, or arbitrarily decide to close down communication with their customers, rendering prior purchased product, as little more than expensive dead lemon.

there are executives at mercedes who reckon that's a cracking idea.

but let's not get too excited. though there are some edge cases, most devs are pretty reliable. ok, NI reneged on its original promise to deliver permanent keys for obsolete software and some others are borderline abusive but for the most part a lot of stuff works and it's not hard to find devs who are easy to deal with. and others have found subscriptions and stuff aren't the path to riches they were expecting.

[gaggle of hermits]

Frustrationware.

Meanwhile Discovery Pro wipes the floor with every other synth, except maybe the last KORG offerings.

‘k

so I guess that means 7.9 as much as 8.1

[Robmobius]

Frustrationware.

Meanwhile Discovery Pro wipes the floor with every other synth, except maybe the last KORG offerings.

Thanks for the Belly laugh there. The shilling continues!

Meanwhile back in the real world with the adults. Discovery Pro gets kicked around like an old coke can compared to: Diva, Zebra, Hive, Pro 5, Icarus, Omnisphere, Vital, Phase Plant, Arturia, Korg, Pigments, LuSH 2, Spire. Just to name a few off the top of my head, I could go on of course.

I own them all and more as well as Discovery.

And just like your bullshit, that's only my opinion.

[Vortifex]

I think it sounds pretty good and unique. Definitely a cool synth. Just tried the version 8 demo and unfortunately it still has the bug in FL Studio where the master volume doesn't work properly.

[Teksonik]

There is an open source developer phrase that drive users and bug reporters crazy on Github and elsewhere, “Works for me, won’t fix”. My point is: YOU have never lost a C/R plugin. But that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist and affect others.

Well I've used well over a thousand plugins or more from countless developers over the last nearly 25 years and have never lost a C/R plugin.

So in my personal experience C/R has not been a problem. Name C/R plugins that have been lost because I honestly can't think of a single one.

Camel Audio Alchemy is the closest I can think of and hey it still works today because the developer took steps to ensure it would still work. You assume that just because a developer goes out of business it automatically means you'll lose their plugins.

But then I tend not to buy plugins from wonky developers who might disappear overnight or ones that seem to be amateurs so maybe that's the difference.

All I can say is I'll take C/R over something like iLok every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

We all have different tolerance levels. You can't tolerate C/R and I can't tolerate invasive third party apps installed by developers who have no control over that code.

But to make it sound like C/R plugins are being lost on a regular basis and so much so that we should avoid using them I think is a gross over exaggeration based on my experience.

[zerocrossing]

Well I've used well over a thousand plugins or more from countless developers over the last nearly 25 years and have never lost a C/R plugin.

Same. I’ve lost plugins before, but none because a C/R authorization failed. Sometimes I think people love to take a stand against something for the pure drama of it all.

[audiojunkie]

Yet there are those who have no problem with C/R authentication, which I simply cannot understand—problems like these keep cropping up over and over and yet people never learn.

Oh stop. I've never lost a C/R protected plugin.

Sure if it was a rainbows and unicorns world all plugins would require only a simple serial number but we live in a place called reality and that's simply not going to happen.

I get your crusade as I have a similar hatred for CP methods that require the installation of third party software.

But while I can easily function without plugins that require iLok or CodeMeter I simply could not live without plugins that require C/R.

There are just too many and too few quality plugins (to me) that are serial number only.

On the subject of the threat from DiscoDSP, I think it's time for George and his A.I. (Actual Ignorance) robots to get a time out at KVR.

There is an open source developer phrase that drive users and bug reporters crazy on Github and elsewhere, “Works for me, won’t fix”. My point is: YOU have never lost a C/R plugin. But that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist and affect others. It simply means you haven’t experienced it yourself, so you don’t consider to be as big of a problem as others feel it is. You’ve been here on KVR a long time, and I know that you know that there have been many that have been burned by C/R. I know that I’m a rarity, but I have been able to use just plugins using serial numbers or keyfiles…….so far. I admit that it is hard to find exactly what I need—especially when it comes to virtual guitar plugins. But I’ve built up a decent toolbox of plugins. I may end up having to use some C/R plugins someday, but I hope not.

MusicLab is a Keyfile.

Really?! Does the keyfile tie to a single system, or is it able to be installed on anything? This sounds like it might be a good option!

[hurricaneaudiolab]

Let me remind you guys what this thread is actually about:

DiscoDSP recently unveiled version 8 of DiscoveryPro, highlighting purported "major" changes focused on enhancing the oscillators, filters, and distortion. Skepticism ensued as DiscoDSP instituted a $75 upgrade fee from V7. The release notes also generated some confusion by hinting at an expansion of presets, implying new additions. In reality, the old presets were simply "expanded" as individual FXPs and organized by type, a feature labeled as "disk mode." Shortly after, they swiftly released version 8.1, this time incorporating genuinely new presets.

The assertion of a 2x improvement in sound quality with V8 raised eyebrows, particularly given the considerable upgrade price and the absence of substantial features beyond the mentioned enhancements. Instead of substantiating their sonic superiority claims with thorough demos, DiscoDSP adopted a defensive posture, branding critics as trolls and questioning their grasp of technological nuances in discerning audio differences.

In light of my own skepticism and as a version 7 owner, I took the initiative to produce a video comparing the sounds of version 7 and version 8, revealing no perceptible sonic differences. Predictably, DiscoDSP promptly closed the discussion thread. Compounding the controversy, DiscoDSP later resorted to threatening license revocation against users who didn't remove specific posts, exacerbating strains on their relationship with the community.

DiscoDSP have since gone silent and refrained from offering any commentary or clarification on the situation.

[BBFG#]

Yet there are those who have no problem with C/R authentication, which I simply cannot understand—problems like these keep cropping up over and over and yet people never learn.

Oh stop. I've never lost a C/R protected plugin.

Sure if it was a rainbows and unicorns world all plugins would require only a simple serial number but we live in a place called reality and that's simply not going to happen.

I get your crusade as I have a similar hatred for CP methods that require the installation of third party software.

But while I can easily function without plugins that require iLok or CodeMeter I simply could not live without plugins that require C/R.

There are just too many and too few quality plugins (to me) that are serial number only.

On the subject of the threat from DiscoDSP, I think it's time for George and his A.I. (Actual Ignorance) robots to get a time out at KVR.

There is an open source developer phrase that drive users and bug reporters crazy on Github and elsewhere, “Works for me, won’t fix”. My point is: YOU have never lost a C/R plugin. But that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist and affect others. It simply means you haven’t experienced it yourself, so you don’t consider to be as big of a problem as others feel it is. You’ve been here on KVR a long time, and I know that you know that there have been many that have been burned by C/R. I know that I’m a rarity, but I have been able to use just plugins using serial numbers or keyfiles…….so far. I admit that it is hard to find exactly what I need—especially when it comes to virtual guitar plugins. But I’ve built up a decent toolbox of plugins. I may end up having to use some C/R plugins someday, but I hope not.

MusicLab is a Keyfile.

Really?! Does the keyfile tie to a single system, or is it able to be installed on anything? This sounds like it might be a good option!

Not sure ATM, but I do have it running on three systems. Pretty sure I used the same key.

[vertibration]

Let me remind you guys what this thread is actually about:

DiscoDSP recently unveiled version 8 of DiscoveryPro, highlighting purported "major" changes focused on enhancing the oscillators, filters, and distortion. Skepticism ensued as DiscoDSP instituted a $75 upgrade fee from V7. The release notes also generated some confusion by hinting at an expansion of presets, implying new additions. In reality, the old presets were simply "expanded" as individual FXPs and organized by type, a feature labeled as "disk mode." Shortly after, they swiftly released version 8.1, this time incorporating genuinely new presets.

The assertion of a 2x improvement in sound quality with V8 raised eyebrows, particularly given the considerable upgrade price and the absence of substantial features beyond the mentioned enhancements. Instead of substantiating their sonic superiority claims with thorough demos, DiscoDSP adopted a defensive posture, branding critics as trolls and questioning their grasp of technological nuances in discerning audio differences.

In light of my own skepticism and as a version 7 owner, I took the initiative to produce a video comparing the sounds of version 7 and version 8, revealing no perceptible sonic differences. Predictably, DiscoDSP promptly closed the discussion thread. Compounding the controversy, DiscoDSP later resorted to threatening license revocation against users who didn't remove specific posts, exacerbating strains on their relationship with the community.

DiscoDSP have since gone silent and refrained from offering any commentary or clarification on the situation.

I was gunna say, is that just someone he hired to do marketing, or was the person posting here the actual Dev? I never seen problems like this with the Dev before.....I knew something was very odd. It just didnt make sense that a person would go on KVR and completely tank their own business into the ground unless it was someone he hired to free up some of his time to continue working on the plugin and what not.

[george]

@autodafe

What kind of oversight leads you to not realize that sharing private offers in a public forum is against our terms or service and clearly stated at our Members Area?

Some members may receive a discounted upgrade price under certain conditions. However, it's important not to overlook the notice at the end of the members' area page which clearly states that this information should not be shared.

We can't believe we have to say this, but this is PRIVATE information, guys. Keep it confidential.

[gaggle of hermits]

discodsp, it seems you don't understand how most countries' contract law works. you can't be held to a contract that does not provide a mechanism to actively agree or disagree with its provision.

my offer is €69.99

sue me, terminate access or whatever. see how you get on.

I don't even get why you care about this.

[mcbpete]

Why should the crossgrade offers be private - surely they'd be the same for everyone ?! (and if they're not, then why are they not ?!)

[Ghostwave]

When I think that if the upgrade had been a little cheaper and the new "features" a little better all this drama would have probably been avoided.

[Septic Underground]

So how about that Vavra MicroQ emu, ain't that a great project?
THe DSP56300 Virus one is also great for your VA sounds.

I wished they did a Supernova II, but since that is a multi sharc synth, it will take awhile a think.
Totally awesome that you can load in all that public domain patches into those for a stack of presets you will never end wading through.

I do love the nord sound BTW, I had a HW Nordlead3 and Nordrack3 and a Nordrack4, it is such a tight sound you can get with those things. The layout is a bit weird compared to other bread and butter subtractive synths, but you can get really nice synths from them.