The input/output are amplifiers - the limiting is set to 0.0. You can enable oversampling and also the other advanced features. Yes, not a modern mastering limiter and not pretending to be one (either was L1, really).Vortifex wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:11 pmDemoing it now. No ISP protection, I need to set the ceiling to -1.5 to prevent peaks from going any further than -0.3. Pumpy. Mushes transients and the high end. Same deal as the free W1 so for me only worth using on tracks/buses.jbraner wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:54 pmYeah - this is the one we've been waiting for.
https://korneffaudio.com/product/el-juan-limiter/
What limiter are u using?
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2501 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
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- KVRist
- 289 posts since 3 Aug, 2014
I'm getting comfortable with it now that I know it better and can get it to do what I want, which is primarily just keeping individual tracks from peaking too high. But once I get a song from my current batch of songs to the mastering stage we'll see what it can do in conjunction with Ozone 9's maximizer. I don't go for super loud, but even getting to around -12LUFS without intersample peaks is tricky if you just ask the maximizer to do it all. Share the load between the clipper, maybe a limiter, and the maximizer and they'll all sound better since they're only carrying a small part of the load.sokoleski wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:43 amKClip 3 is quite very good (the GUI could be better) very versatile and sound is top notch.Mind Riot wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:39 am Ozone 9
Though I just got KClip 3, so I'm looking forward to messing with it and seeing what it's like using a really good clipper before the maximizer in the mastering stage.
Very usable ! ...and light on CPU![]()
Anyway, I'm rambling...
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- KVRist
- 239 posts since 21 Apr, 2010
Should I list all 347 limiters I have ? or just the ones that were released in the last week ?
one thing I have learned from Dave Pensado (great advice) is : "I use them on every mix".
Besides all the usual suspects (NFA Elevate, Limitless, TDR Limiter no6 GE, etc.) I use KClipZero (zero hustle), MCompressor (AMAZING clipper), TM LoudMax (getting better all the time !), and as of late I use my own custom Lexicon emulation (Lexcellent) limiter section.
one thing I have learned from Dave Pensado (great advice) is : "I use them on every mix".
Besides all the usual suspects (NFA Elevate, Limitless, TDR Limiter no6 GE, etc.) I use KClipZero (zero hustle), MCompressor (AMAZING clipper), TM LoudMax (getting better all the time !), and as of late I use my own custom Lexicon emulation (Lexcellent) limiter section.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2501 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
El Juan is still free as of right now, but it won't be free soon. It's a great character track limiter. El Juan and Tracklimit are all I need for track limiting - and I use Tracklimit on the mixbus while jamming.
I have a few others but rarely use them. I'm excluding clippers, as well, as I consider those separate (or a separate function that can be paired with a limiter).
I have a few others but rarely use them. I'm excluding clippers, as well, as I consider those separate (or a separate function that can be paired with a limiter).
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- KVRian
- 567 posts since 21 May, 2016
I picked it up recently. Really nice sounding plugin with lots of great options. I don't even mind the UI but I wish there was more visual feedback and more options with the visualizer. At least show me where the threshold is since the visualizer is post output, so when you link input and output the waveform display shrinks.sokoleski wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:43 amKClip 3 is quite very good (the GUI could be better)Mind Riot wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:39 am Ozone 9
Though I just got KClip 3, so I'm looking forward to messing with it and seeing what it's like using a really good clipper before the maximizer in the mastering stage.
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 16 Sep, 2023
It sounds pretty bad (not good), even at moderate gain reduction levels. Well, not surprising, considering that it's based on the obsolete L1 limiter of the late 1990s. Why would I use a bad sounding limiter, when I can use a free limiter like Kilohearts Limiter, that sounds significantly better for all basic limiting purposes? Not to mention dedicated mastering limiters like Tokyo Dawn Limiter 6.vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:22 pmThe input/output are amplifiers - the limiting is set to 0.0. You can enable oversampling and also the other advanced features. Yes, not a modern mastering limiter and not pretending to be one (either was L1, really).Vortifex wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:11 pmDemoing it now. No ISP protection, I need to set the ceiling to -1.5 to prevent peaks from going any further than -0.3. Pumpy. Mushes transients and the high end. Same deal as the free W1 so for me only worth using on tracks/buses.jbraner wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:54 pmYeah - this is the one we've been waiting for.
https://korneffaudio.com/product/el-juan-limiter/
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 16 Sep, 2023
I always have it on the main stereo out during production and mixing with the ceiling set to -0.3 often pushing the input gain to do 2 - 3 dbs of gain reduction. Not once did I experience ISP overs!Vortifex wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:54 am Tried the free Kilohearts limiter after people mentioned it here. It has no ISP protection so it's not particularly useful on the master bus but fine as a track limiter. My DAW already includes a limiter though so not much reason to keep this.
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- KVRAF
- 4767 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
El Juan by Korneff, it's great! It's iLok too, so it's convenient if you work out of different studio's 
Edit: it’s not iLok! So ignore my sarcasm
Edit: it’s not iLok! So ignore my sarcasm
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
I get the feeling they are testing a new licence platform as part of the BETA, maybe they are looking to move on to a system they control. All other plugins are iLok but EL isn't.
simmo75 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:50 pm El Juan by Korneff, it's great! It's iLok too, so it's convenient if you work out of different studio's![]()
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- KVRAF
- 4767 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
You’re totally right! They’re working on a new licensing system. My bad, ignore my sarcastic iLok comment…aberration123 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:48 pm I get the feeling they are testing a new licence platform as part of the BETA, maybe they are looking to move on to a system they control. All other plugins are iLok but EL isn't.
simmo75 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:50 pm El Juan by Korneff, it's great! It's iLok too, so it's convenient if you work out of different studio's![]()
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
Consider yourself pardoned! at least we agree it sounds good and works well, like all of their plugins.... Pawn Shop Comp sounds proper, even when the Comp part is turned off.
simmo75 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:16 pmYou’re totally right! They’re working on a new licensing system. My bad, ignore my sarcastic iLok comment…aberration123 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:48 pm I get the feeling they are testing a new licence platform as part of the BETA, maybe they are looking to move on to a system they control. All other plugins are iLok but EL isn't.
simmo75 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:50 pm El Juan by Korneff, it's great! It's iLok too, so it's convenient if you work out of different studio's![]()
- KVRAF
- 6210 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Korneff do 4 iLok activations by the way, the most i've seen from any company.
Those dudes are cool as f**k.
Those dudes are cool as f**k.
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRist
- 289 posts since 4 Dec, 2003 from Oregon, USA
DisagreeBackInCheck wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:23 pmIt sounds pretty bad (not good), even at moderate gain reduction levels. Well, not surprising, considering that it's based on the obsolete L1 limiter of the late 1990s. Why would I use a bad sounding limiter, when I can use a free limiter like Kilohearts Limiter, that sounds significantly better for all basic limiting purposes? Not to mention dedicated mastering limiters like Tokyo Dawn Limiter 6.vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:22 pmThe input/output are amplifiers - the limiting is set to 0.0. You can enable oversampling and also the other advanced features. Yes, not a modern mastering limiter and not pretending to be one (either was L1, really).Vortifex wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:11 pmDemoing it now. No ISP protection, I need to set the ceiling to -1.5 to prevent peaks from going any further than -0.3. Pumpy. Mushes transients and the high end. Same deal as the free W1 so for me only worth using on tracks/buses.jbraner wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:54 pmYeah - this is the one we've been waiting for.
https://korneffaudio.com/product/el-juan-limiter/
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
My feeling was EL sounded good even at stupid amounts of reduction, plenty of options to alter the sound if needed. Managed 20db of reduction on a kick drum, it gelled it nicely, reduced the output to suit and sounded fine.
Most sensible people I've watched have stated True Peak is BS for the most part.
Most sensible people I've watched have stated True Peak is BS for the most part.
