UAD still worth it?

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elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:56 pm Not quite correct. It seems it depends on what country.
which bit was actually incorrect? I wrote that they had an active trademark on variable mu.

but you were busting my chops over "vari-mu".

if you're going to be pedantic, you're going to have to commit to it sunshine.

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:00 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:56 pm So again… why make the effort to avoid using Fairchild?
https://trademarks.justia.com/780/40/va ... 40792.html
it might help if you actually followed the original conversation rather than going down some brand-name rabbit hole.

the only point I was making is that it's a bit pointless comparing to a Fairchild if you have no idea what the actual hardware sounds like and are only pursuing it because you "heard it was dead good". I understand the idea that the overall design approach may well be sound and that is worth emulating but the comparison need only go as far as "which one do I like". the comparison against a specific model is entirely moot.
I understood it.

Here’s the thing. For someone learning, theres lots of territory to cover (including hard learned lessons about needlessly buying because of a sale price).

If the intent is to build a foundation, it’s much easier doing so when there are well know audio examples of when something (insert brand name) was used.

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:05 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:56 pm Not quite correct. It seems it depends on what country.
which bit was actually incorrect? I wrote that they had an active trademark on variable mu.

but you were busting my chops over "vari-mu".

if you're going to be pedantic, you're going to have to commit to it sunshine.
:lol: Sunshine? Is it still 1985? Are you gonna talk about getting panties in a bunch too? What else am I missing to complete the time warp?

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elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:09 pm Here’s the thing. For someone learning, theres lots of territory to cover (including hard learned lessons about needlessly buying because of a sale price).

If the intent is to build a foundation, it’s much easier doing so when there are well know audio examples of when something (insert brand name) was used.
are you saying jamcat is a beginner? seems a little judgmental. but ok.

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elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:11 pm
gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:05 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:56 pm Not quite correct. It seems it depends on what country.
which bit was actually incorrect? I wrote that they had an active trademark on variable mu.

but you were busting my chops over "vari-mu".

if you're going to be pedantic, you're going to have to commit to it sunshine.
:lol: Sunshine? Is it still 1985? Are you gonna talk about getting panties in a bunch too? What else am I missing to complete the time warp?
I see you didn't answer the question.

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elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:59 pm I’m only going to have fun as the “actually” kid for a moment.
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My cats are eviscerating you. Keep it up, sunshine!

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:13 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:09 pm Here’s the thing. For someone learning, theres lots of territory to cover (including hard learned lessons about needlessly buying because of a sale price).

If the intent is to build a foundation, it’s much easier doing so when there are well know audio examples of when something (insert brand name) was used.
are you saying jamcat is a beginner? seems a little judgmental. but ok.
That’s what the link previously posted was for. Additionally search engines are your friend. If you’re asking why I responded that it might depend on the country it’s because that same Justia site shows one seemingly vacated trademark started in 2003 and then an older one in different country.

I’ve done as much work on this one as I care too. So if that makes you feel like a winner, knock yourself and I hope you treat yourself to some classic Miami Vice episodes

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Uncle E wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:24 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:59 pm I’m only going to have fun as the “actually” kid for a moment.
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There’s some great Conan Needs a Friend episodes featuring Questlove. The actually bit has been stuck in my head since. Questlove needs his own show. Self described as loquacious.

Same goes for his video with Norah Jones. Great stuff! More popcorn worthy (in a good way).

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elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 pm
gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:13 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:09 pm Here’s the thing. For someone learning, theres lots of territory to cover (including hard learned lessons about needlessly buying because of a sale price).

If the intent is to build a foundation, it’s much easier doing so when there are well know audio examples of when something (insert brand name) was used.
are you saying jamcat is a beginner? seems a little judgmental. but ok.
That’s what the link previously posted was for. Additionally search engines are your friend. If you’re asking why I responded that it might depend on the country it’s because that same Justia site shows one seemingly vacated trademark started in 2003 and then an older one in different country.

I’ve done as much work on this one as I care too. So if that makes you feel like a winner, knock yourself and I hope you treat yourself to some classic Miami Vice episodes
Actually…ackshully, if you read my earlier post you’ll see I point out Manley got the trademark for Variable Mu in the US anyway, with a little aside on the shenanigans they pulled to get it. search engines obviously help but reading is more helpful. Ackshully.

but you decided to go after vari-mu. Unlucky

thanks for playing. Be sure to stop by the gift shop on the way out

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:41 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 pm
gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:13 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:09 pm Here’s the thing. For someone learning, theres lots of territory to cover (including hard learned lessons about needlessly buying because of a sale price).

If the intent is to build a foundation, it’s much easier doing so when there are well know audio examples of when something (insert brand name) was used.
are you saying jamcat is a beginner? seems a little judgmental. but ok.
That’s what the link previously posted was for. Additionally search engines are your friend. If you’re asking why I responded that it might depend on the country it’s because that same Justia site shows one seemingly vacated trademark started in 2003 and then an older one in different country.

I’ve done as much work on this one as I care too. So if that makes you feel like a winner, knock yourself and I hope you treat yourself to some classic Miami Vice episodes
Actually…ackshully, if you read my earlier post you’ll see I point out Manley got the trademark for Variable Mu in the US anyway, with a little aside on the shenanigans they pulled to get it. search engines obviously help but reading is more helpful. Ackshully.

but you decided to go after vari-mu. Unlucky

thanks for playing. Be sure to stop by the gift shop on the way out
How is it unlucky if you’re correcting me to tell me that I was right?

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No I can't be sure one way or the other, Jamcat. They are rare and likely not too many owners would be thrilled to have their baby torn down to be analyzed part by part. That would leave traditional component modelling with a reliance upon schematics and perhaps few isolated deep dives into specifics parts if available. Speculation only.

jamcat wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:24 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:06 pm You missed a few Jamcat.
It's possible others got ahold of actual original Fairchilds produced between the late '50s and early '60s. But the only confirmed models component modeled from in-house measurements of original vintage Fairchilds that I know of are UA, IK, and Waves. Do you know if any of the others were created by modeling primary sources (not replicas, impulses, or other software models)?

FWIW, Telefunken has relaunched Fairchild as of October and are producing new 670s to the original specs.

https://www.mixonline.com/technology/ne ... compressor

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I’d like to see someone component model one of the new 670s.
Though they still cost $35,000. :shock:


https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... compressor
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:58 pm
gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:41 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 pm
gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:13 pm
elxsound wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:09 pm Here’s the thing. For someone learning, theres lots of territory to cover (including hard learned lessons about needlessly buying because of a sale price).

If the intent is to build a foundation, it’s much easier doing so when there are well know audio examples of when something (insert brand name) was used.
are you saying jamcat is a beginner? seems a little judgmental. but ok.
That’s what the link previously posted was for. Additionally search engines are your friend. If you’re asking why I responded that it might depend on the country it’s because that same Justia site shows one seemingly vacated trademark started in 2003 and then an older one in different country.

I’ve done as much work on this one as I care too. So if that makes you feel like a winner, knock yourself and I hope you treat yourself to some classic Miami Vice episodes
Actually…ackshully, if you read my earlier post you’ll see I point out Manley got the trademark for Variable Mu in the US anyway, with a little aside on the shenanigans they pulled to get it. search engines obviously help but reading is more helpful. Ackshully.

but you decided to go after vari-mu. Unlucky

thanks for playing. Be sure to stop by the gift shop on the way out
How is it unlucky if you’re correcting me to tell me that I was right?
right about what, exactly?

the irony of this is not lost on me, dr projection: “So if that makes you feel like a winner, knock yourself and I hope you treat yourself to some classic Miami Vice episodes”

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So I've lost track. UAD Fairchild with variable moo, yes or no?

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