Ableton 12 - Generative MIDI, Multiband Distortion and more
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I still ride a fader sometime rather than use a compressor, not just to keep dynamics, but it somehow feels more natural and everything is to ear!
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 10 Jul, 2018
Well you can play it in real-time for a flowing and musical groove and then fine-tune it to enhance the flow and the musicality (among other things). That's what I do with MPE synth automation for example.pdxindy wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:16 pmDefine better quality.Ou_Tis wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:44 pm So instead of fine-tuning the automation by editing the recorded automation you just keep drawing in new takes with your controller until you're satisfied? Granted that's how automation was done in ancient times but you're almost certainly going to get better quality by editing.
More precise? I would agree. More flowing and in a musical groove? Then realtime 'playing' works better for me.
Now I'm wondering whether I can have Ableton treat a specific note/octave value+Slide (Y axis) combination as a slider for a specific parameter---"if note/octave value is X, then map Slide for that note to parameter" to record automation---if so then I should be able to turn every keywave on the Seaboard into a slider for a different (set of) parameter(s). Pretty sure I could do it in Bitwig with the grid....
- KVRAF
- 26961 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
My experience with editing is that I quickly start to lose/interrupt the feeling of the original recording. That is why I stick to minor edits and mostly re-record parts.Ou_Tis wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:29 pmWell you can play it in real-time for a flowing and musical groove and then fine-tune it to enhance the flow and the musicality (among other things). That's what I do with MPE synth automation for example.pdxindy wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:16 pm Define better quality.
More precise? I would agree. More flowing and in a musical groove? Then realtime 'playing' works better for me.
- KVRian
- 977 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK
What are you referring to with Performer?nanostream wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:56 am I’ve finally tried Performer and I don’t know why I’ve waited so long. This is brilliant. It blows plugins like Transit out of the water, it’s not even close.
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- KVRian
- 542 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
Yes, that’s it, great video! Variations seem to be a cool tool as well, but it‘s quite buggy at the moment.
- KVRAF
- 1551 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
So, it's a little quiet in Ableton land. Latest beta build almost 1 month ago (though still with a long list of bug fixes). But the early 2024 projected release date still stand. I wonder if they are preparing for imminent release, or rather a long beta testing period is still pending.
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Its been 3 weeks but too be fair not much gets done of Xmas and New Year!Yorrrrrr wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:15 pm So, it's a little quiet in Ableton land. Latest beta build almost 1 month ago (though still with a long list of bug fixes). But the early 2024 projected release date still stand. I wonder if they are preparing for imminent release, or rather a long beta testing period is still pending.
Performance and Live packs were update a few days ago so they are back at work
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Waiting for 12.0.1+ before installing (also finishing current projects on live10)
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
New Beta out today 
I would say its close as seem to be the new racks and pre-sets etc and refining of tags etc. and a lot of bug fixes
I would say its close as seem to be the new racks and pre-sets etc and refining of tags etc. and a lot of bug fixes
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Not sure how PUSH 3 SA will be updated when Live 12 drops, but it works as a control surface for 12 in controller mode (including Roar and Meld etc)
I know its a Live and PUSH 3 thing, but that new performance pack turns the PUSH 3 in to a fully configurable performance surface for Live, cc or even CV...nice little addition to 12.
I know its a Live and PUSH 3 thing, but that new performance pack turns the PUSH 3 in to a fully configurable performance surface for Live, cc or even CV...nice little addition to 12.
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I suspect its only a few weeks from launch, maybe that is?...once its out everyone can demo it.Yorrrrrr wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:00 pm Good. However, there's still many people who have never been given the chance to beta test Live 12![]()
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!