What is your favorite transient shaper ?

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MogwaiBoy wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:16 am
sqigls wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:55 am impact is all you need.
and i own them all.
You're right, Impact by Surreal Machines is so good and so easy to use. I love the way the multi-band is just split right there for attack/sustain control on each easily accessible.
so
friggon
easy to use
best, most versatile and multiband transient plugin evaaazz
the gui seals the deal.
i was just thinking this afternoon, i need to sell a shitload of plugins, simply because i don't use them at all and again simply because their graphical user interface is ferkin shite.

impact is a pleasure to use. wish it had an envelope exponential/logarithmic control for both attack and sustain though, whatever it's called. i realise that's probably not how the 'envelope' of a transient designer works. i AM a bit choosey :P
bit of a luxury, but that would make it perfect in my books.

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+1 for Impact. And how many other transient shapers you're able to demo inside your web browser? :P https://www.surrealmachines.com/impact-demo/

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dblock wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:31 pm HOFA IQ-Series Transient. I love that you can direct the transient (or sustain) to a particular frequency.Covers every transient need you could want pretty much.
+1 love it. Can make material also quite 3d

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More and more I reach for the free Khz Transient Shaper. Light on CPU and also has a Clip and Punch feature.

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Another vote for the free kHz one, it's awesome.

For multiband Spiff is hard to beat imho

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Been playing with some transient shapers this weekend and Noiseworks Transplit especially. Nabbed when it was free, but it took this video by BasteIn to open my eyes to the potential to separate transient and sustain and run separately through different effect chains. So simple. There may be comparable shapers, none of which I have. Light on CPU comparatively.


Also planning to pickup Wavegrove Utu, if it's still on sale early next week. No demo, but price is right and seems to be a suitable simple replacement for Transgressor with a lot of overlapping features.

Boz has neglected Transgressor. Audio Assault silently killed off Multi Transient v2, and Transplit now gives me all I would want from Couture's premium version with regard to saturation.

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I tested almost everything I could find and resulted in:

-Flux BitterSweet (a bit psychoacoustic)
-Neutron Elements's transient shaper (basic, colorless)
-Eventide UltraChannel (coloring, not technically a transient shaper, but combining the gate with the compressors has that functionality)

I also have at least the NI Transient Master, but it sounds plasticy to me.

The BitterSweet has excellent controls for tuning the behavior around transients.

I honestly think that transient shapers without timing controls are most likely quite bad fit for some but lucky material.
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For me Surreal Machines Impact and Crack.

https://www.surrealmachines.com/transie ... nes-vstau/

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soundmodel wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:42 am I also have at least the NI Transient Master, but it sounds plasticy to me.
Any specific type of material or generally speaking?

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kidslow wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:14 pm
soundmodel wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:42 am I also have at least the NI Transient Master, but it sounds plasticy to me.
Any specific type of material or generally speaking?
In general, but I guess it should work for low-harmonic electronic music. Plasticy means that it doesn't give expected transient snap or bottom weight. I.e. too smooth and thin. Most likely because the timing fits the transient unideally or the curves are too pure.

Seems like a taste thing viewtopic.php?t=440377. However, it certainly has less tuneability than some others.

Or well, the plastic sound is clearly e.g. in these demos https://en.audiofanzine.com/transient-s ... rrows.html. It squashes the snap unnaturally rather than reveals it.

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Here is a pretty neat article where they compare NI Transient Master to SPL Transient Designer on different sources, with plenty of audio examples.

It's really good at highlighting how different they are under different applications and how which one is better can really change depending on what you're using it on and why.

https://en.audiofanzine.com/transient-s ... rrows.html

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concealed identity wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:02 pm It's really good at highlighting how different they are under different applications and how which one is better can really change depending on what you're using it on and why.
this type of view is true for so so many things !...and so so often just left out.

Thats why the adjustbaility itself is so important.
And thats why i like the one from Sonnox very much for my uses.
Sonnox "Oxford Envolution".

To be had on sales for cheap. Definitly for $39. probably even down to $29. lower ? no idea

(never dealing with banging drums myself. More keyboards into FX, and somewhere there involved some transient shaping)
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.

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I just downloaded the demo for Surreal Machines‘ Impact. I had high hopes after playing around with the online demo.
It was quite a let down when I put it on several elements of a huge drum session. The filters totally screw the phase and that just creates havoc with any elements from the room mics, overheads, etc.
Sure, reducing the 3 bands for the transient designer down to just one and deactivating the clipper immediately helped but that’s basically bypassing everything that had almost sold me on this plugin. What a missed opportunity and I hope they consider adding a linear phase mode and oversampling in future update. I‘ll definitely give it another shot but for now it’s basically useless for my workflow and the kind of projects I‘m mainly working on. The phase-mess surely isn’t that big of a deal if there aren’t any room mics, overheads (i.e. working on loops/stems or electronic beats). I probably wouldn’t run it in parallel, either.
Sheeesh, that’s unfortunate. The plugin looks totally awesome and the features are amazing. For my purposes it just would have to be a bit more refined.

So it’s elysia nvelope again. It’s not bad but it’s just very basic and I quite often wished I had a transient designer that would let me dive into the sound and sculpt it until I see fit… nvelope and SPL Transient Designer both get the job done and many times it’s really all that’s needed but sometimes they are just too basic.
I probably should give Sonnox Evolution a try. I hear it receiving praise for many years and I think I must shame myself for never having tried any of their plugins, haha. Good to know it goes as low as 30-40 bucks!
Also, if I‘m not mistaken oeksound is probably gonna have their spring sale in a couple of days and I think I never gave a Spiff a try.

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If you happen to own FabFilter Saturn2 then you can create a super complex multiband transient shaper with linear phase filters.

Where it gets extremely versatile is when you combine level based transient shaping together with the saturation. That's a really cool thing to explore and fine tune drums with.
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That sounds quite interesting :D Would you mind to elaborate or share a link to some video of this in action? :) I keep hearing and seeing awesome uses of Saturn 2 and it‘s definitely high on my list… surely never thought of it as a transient designer. But you‘re pretty much hitting the nail there. I always have some distortion/clipper after the transient designers to shape and curb them further. I‘m pretty much open to any phase-friendly multi-band solution so I can work on the body, oomph, slap and smack or shine separately. Best case would be to have it in one plugin. Spiff lookes quite interesting and I’ll download the demo once it’s on sale to see what it can do. I also had a look at Transgressor but the level dependent detection didn’t really work for me at all.
How is the Saturn 2 solution doing with.. say guitars (acoustic or clean picking/strumming) or any other source with a more prominent sustain than most percussion? Can I think of it as some kind of a rather complex preset you set up once, save it and then shift and move around as you see fit or is it fast to set up?

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