Most-tolerated Genre?
- KVRAF
- 20754 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Very helpful to have the arbiter of funk on hand. Are RHCP funk? How about Sun Ra? I guess Sly and the Family Stone are certainly funk, although they sure got soulful! "Don't put no Sly in my Soul."
- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
RHCP is influenced by funk but I consider them rock. Some will say funk-rock. Clinton produced their second album Freaky Styley so that's by far their funkiest ouptut.
Sun Ra is nowhere near funk. He's jazz. Weird jazz. Too much weed jazz.
The usual suspects are funk, James Brown, Clinton (when he's not experimenting because he just listened to Floyd), lots of Prince, Marvin Gaye's Got to Give It Up is good funk.
Lots of 70s instrumental bands are good funk. IE the Crusaders.
Herbie hancock's head hunters is a classic
Sun Ra is nowhere near funk. He's jazz. Weird jazz. Too much weed jazz.
The usual suspects are funk, James Brown, Clinton (when he's not experimenting because he just listened to Floyd), lots of Prince, Marvin Gaye's Got to Give It Up is good funk.
Lots of 70s instrumental bands are good funk. IE the Crusaders.
Herbie hancock's head hunters is a classic
- KVRAF
- 20754 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Calling you The Arbiter of Funk was a pejorative! You are supposed to be highly offended!
I've seen Parliament and Sun Ra live (separately). Sun Ra was funkier. But these were relatively modern incarnations of both acts and the only funk in Diaper Man was in his diaper.
I've seen Parliament and Sun Ra live (separately). Sun Ra was funkier. But these were relatively modern incarnations of both acts and the only funk in Diaper Man was in his diaper.
- KVRAF
- 2856 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
I can listen to a bit of almost anything, except ,really commercial top 40 rock, country, and hip hop will make me want to leave a space, or vomit. I prefer not to just tolerate any sound/music, only listening to what i like.Uncle E wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:38 pm Calling you The Arbiter of Funk was a pejorative! You are supposed to be highly offended!
I've seen Parliament and Sun Ra live (separately). Sun Ra was funkier. But these were relatively modern incarnations of both acts and the only funk in Diaper Man was in his diaper.
(yeah, i live rurally, and if that changes i will need to invest in sound absorbing materials and maye even NC headphones.)
Agree with Jancivil on genres- just categories (boxes).
Elevator music was a great answer.
I've also seen Sun Ra Arkestra (love it) and many times Parliament Funkadelic (love it). How anything could be considered funkier than most of those PFunk shows is out of my range of experience. (also some of the most psychedelic rock i've ever heard).
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- KVRAF
- 16136 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
I had the awesome privilege of working with the original musicians from both of those great groups.CrystalWizard wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:15 pmI can listen to a bit of almost anything, except ,really commercial top 40 rock, country, and hip hop will make me want to leave a space, or vomit. I prefer not to just tolerate any sound/music, only listening to what i like.Uncle E wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:38 pm Calling you The Arbiter of Funk was a pejorative! You are supposed to be highly offended!
I've seen Parliament and Sun Ra live (separately). Sun Ra was funkier. But these were relatively modern incarnations of both acts and the only funk in Diaper Man was in his diaper.
(yeah, i live rurally, and if that changes i will need to invest in sound absorbing materials and maye even NC headphones.)
Agree with Jancivil on genres- just categories (boxes).
Elevator music was a great answer.
I've also seen Sun Ra Arkestra (love it) and many times Parliament Funkadelic (love it). How anything could be considered funkier than most of those PFunk shows is out of my range of experience. (also some of the most psychedelic rock i've ever heard).
Super talented players for sure.
The stories about Sun Ra were mind blowing......"Space is the place".......
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17754 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
OTOH, I have found it to be a great way to discover new music I like without having to wade through a sea of dross. Genres aren't the problem, narrowmindedness is the problem. (It's always people, never things.)jancivil wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:28 pmAFAIC "genre" in music is just an excuse to stay narrow-minded.
That shit leaves me cold. I couldn't care less about anybody's ability to play an instrument. It does absolutely nothing for me, in and of itself. It goes 100% against the Punk ethos that got me into doing music in the first place.Bombadil wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:50 pmI want to see/hear people who've learned their craft on real instruments.
Easy for you if you never leave the house.vurt wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:29 pm i don't "tolerate" anything.
i enjoy the things i like, i don't listen to things i don't like.
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- 17754 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
I am always, 100% of the time, in the mood for Post Punk. It's a broad church, I know, but that's part of its appeal. It covers the full gamut, from total indifference to blinding rage. I cannot imagine a mood that I couldn't match to a Post Punk album or three.Introspective wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:03 pmWhat would you say is your "most tolerated" music genre? ...What style of music are you least likely to skip just because your mood is off at the moment?
OTOH, I can't imagine a mood where I might find Techno anything other than "repetitive and downright tedious to listen to". And don't get me started on Tarnce.
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- KVRAF
- 20754 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Fugazi? LCD Soundsystem? I’m curious where the genre starts and ends.BONES wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:58 pm I am always, 100% of the time, in the mood for Post Punk. It's a broad church, I know, but that's part of its appeal.
- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
That's because you're a poseur non-musician!BONES wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:58 pmOTOH, I have found it to be a great way to discover new music I like without having to wade through a sea of dross. Genres aren't the problem, narrowmindedness is the problem. (It's always people, never things.)jancivil wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:28 pmAFAIC "genre" in music is just an excuse to stay narrow-minded.That shit leaves me cold. I couldn't care less about anybody's ability to play an instrument. It does absolutely nothing for me, in and of itself. It goes 100% against the Punk ethos that got me into doing music in the first place.Bombadil wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:50 pmI want to see/hear people who've learned their craft on real instruments.Easy for you if you never leave the house.vurt wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:29 pm i don't "tolerate" anything.
i enjoy the things i like, i don't listen to things i don't like.
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- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
And though I know vurt is perfectly capable of defending himself, taking cheap shots at disabled people is really ugly. Somehow, that fits you.
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- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
Oh beleive me I'm extremely pissed off.Uncle E wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:38 pm Calling you The Arbiter of Funk was a pejorative! You are supposed to be highly offended!
I haven't witnessed the funky side of ra. Ive seen his movie I guess it's called space is the place and heard some records here and there and none of it sounded like it could be the theme for ShaftI've seen Parliament and Sun Ra live (separately). Sun Ra was funkier.
Yeah well.funk is music charged by sex energy more so than most other genres. A 70 ish year old trying to "funk" is like a 70 ish year old trying to "f**k".the only funk in Diaper Man was in his diaper.
It aint quite turbo charged.
- KVRAF
- 7085 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Personally my tastes are quite varied. However, if I were to choose a genre that is most tolerated, it would have to be top 40's pop--the very stuff I disdain. It is catchy and easy for anyone to get into. This is the perfect music for those who just want something to listen to, and never think about. For this reason, it is the most tolerated genre for the masses. For musicians though, it is so basic that you tire of it really really easy. I like a lot of music that you have to grow into--that you have to think about--that you may not like immediately. The chord progressions of Brian Wilson's later work (think Pet Sounds era) are an example of music that is deeper than just pop. Another example: Sergio Mendes' Never Gonna Let You Go--I'm not a huge fan of the particular song, but I could study the chord progression of that song for years and still never get it all figured out, let alone play it. It sounds simple, especially if you've never given it any thought. But if you seriously try to repeat it on your guitar? Good luck! I like a lot of shoegaze and noise rock because of the fractal-like organic nature of it. It's like finding a pattern in the static of an old analog off-line television, or hearing harmony in the rain drops of a storm. I could go on and on, but my point is that pop is the most tolerated genre because of the simplicity of it. That's why it dominates the Top 40 market. At least, that's my take.Introspective wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:03 pm I have a new techno album out today! <background sound of toy horn>
I was trying to show it off to a friend of mine, but his comment was "I've really got to be in the mood for techno."
...and I was like: THAT IS FAIR. It's true. It's repetitive and downright tedious to listen to techno if you're not in the mood. ...but then it occurred to me that I am very rarely not in the mood for techno. It's one of my "comfort foods" as far as genres go.
Which got me thinking...
What would you say is your "most tolerated" music genre? ...What style of music are you least likely to skip just because your mood is off at the moment?
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- KVRAF
- 7085 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
BertKoor wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:20 am The genre you MUST tolerate:
Elevator Music
because the alternative is walk all those stairs...
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- KVRAF
- 7085 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Uncle E wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:38 pm Calling you The Arbiter of Funk was a pejorative! You are supposed to be highly offended!
I've seen Parliament and Sun Ra live (separately). Sun Ra was funkier. But these were relatively modern incarnations of both acts and the only funk in Diaper Man was in his diaper.
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- KVRian
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- 920 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Boston, MA
A good answer!BONES wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:58 pmI am always, 100% of the time, in the mood for Post Punk. It's a broad church, I know, but that's part of its appeal. It covers the full gamut, from total indifference to blinding rage. I cannot imagine a mood that I couldn't match to a Post Punk album or three.Introspective wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:03 pmWhat would you say is your "most tolerated" music genre? ...What style of music are you least likely to skip just because your mood is off at the moment?
OTOH, I can't imagine a mood where I might find Techno anything other than "repetitive and downright tedious to listen to". And don't get me started on Tarnce.
...even if it's wrong about techno.