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Thanks for letting us know, FigBug!

So it looks like the big thing in Waveform 13 is clip launchery. That's no small thing. People seem to be so keen on it, but I still don't really know what it is.

I'm probably more excited for the new colours and better-looking automation. And hoping that the presets in the Micro Drum Sampler are finally fixed.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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pough wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:56 am I'm probably more excited for the new colours and better-looking automation. And hoping that the presets in the Micro Drum Sampler are finally fixed.
I M808 and M909 presets not reloading their samples? Yeah, I think I got that one.

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FigBug wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:58 am I M808 and M909 presets not reloading their samples? Yeah, I think I got that one.
They also load with the pads in ADSR mode instead of Oneshot, so they are usually truncated.

Will there be a last bugfix update for WF12, or are all the fixes mentioned in the last six months only going to be in WF13?
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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pough wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:02 am
FigBug wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:58 am I M808 and M909 presets not reloading their samples? Yeah, I think I got that one.
They also load with the pads in ADSR mode instead of Oneshot, so they are usually truncated.

Will there be a last bugfix update for WF12, or are all the fixes mentioned in the last six months only going to be in WF13?
i can confirm both issues described here. I feel like something that is this broken and reported for so long should really be fixed in the current product for those of us who bought it. Fixing it only in the next paid version feels very wrong.

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FigBug, hi!
Thanks for the great synthesizer, and other Socalabs plugins!
Tell me, please, will the Tracktion team fix a bug with modifiers in WF13 when the modifier settings are reset after inserting a new plugin on the track?
And how is the PDC problem in WF13? Is it solved or is everything at the same level: rendering and recording in tracks (midi, wav) do not work correctly if a plugin is installed in the project that has a delay and has an impact even when it is turned off?
And, by the way, if there is a transition to engine 3, does this mean that projects 11, 12 versions after opening in WF13 will be backwards incompatible?

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...I wonder what Horizen has to do with Tracktion?
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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nowgad wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:13 pm FigBug, hi!
Thanks for the great synthesizer, and other Socalabs plugins!
Tell me, please, will the Tracktion team fix a bug with modifiers in WF13 when the modifier settings are reset after inserting a new plugin on the track?
Not sure what yo mean by this. Replacing the plugin that has modifier assigned? Or just adding another plugin?
nowgad wrote: And how is the PDC problem in WF13? Is it solved or is everything at the same level: rendering and recording in tracks (midi, wav) do not work correctly if a plugin is installed in the project that has a delay and has an impact even when it is turned off?
Not sure about this, can you provide example project where it isn't working?
nowgad wrote: And, by the way, if there is a transition to engine 3, does this mean that projects 11, 12 versions after opening in WF13 will be backwards incompatible?
This is always the case, if you open edit in new version, you can't open in previous version. Software gives a warning to copy the edit before you work on it.

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FigBug wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:01 pm
nowgad wrote: And how is the PDC problem in WF13? Is it solved or is everything at the same level: rendering and recording in tracks (midi, wav) do not work correctly if a plugin is installed in the project that has a delay and has an impact even when it is turned off?
Not sure about this, can you provide example project where it isn't working?
Showing is probably better than telling.


The presence of plugins with a delay affects the timing of recording in a way that it shouldn't.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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pough wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:26 pm
FigBug wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:01 pm
nowgad wrote: And how is the PDC problem in WF13? Is it solved or is everything at the same level: rendering and recording in tracks (midi, wav) do not work correctly if a plugin is installed in the project that has a delay and has an impact even when it is turned off?
Not sure about this, can you provide example project where it isn't working?
Showing is probably better than telling.


The presence of plugins with a delay affects the timing of recording in a way that it shouldn't.
Thanks, I'll forward this to Dave. Please don't remove the YouTube video.

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FigBug wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:30 pm Thanks, I'll forward this to Dave. Please don't remove the YouTube video.
Dave saw it. the video is available only via the link

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FigBug wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:01 pm
nowgad wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:13 pm FigBug, hi!
Thanks for the great synthesizer, and other Socalabs plugins!
Tell me, please, will the Tracktion team fix a bug with modifiers in WF13 when the modifier settings are reset after inserting a new plugin on the track?
Not sure what yo mean by this. Replacing the plugin that has modifier assigned? Or just adding another plugin?


and another bug:


Waveform crashes when using the "Reset all Muted/Solo..." functions.

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I can't reproduce the solo crash one. Is the trigger that you need more that 80 tracks?

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FigBug wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:02 pm I can't reproduce the solo crash one. Is the trigger that you need more that 80 tracks?
in my case, in an empty project, it is stable, if 81 tracks or more, 100% fails. in a working project, fewer tracks are required to cause a failure.

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nowgad wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:11 pm
FigBug wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:02 pm I can't reproduce the solo crash one. Is the trigger that you need more that 80 tracks?
in my case, in an empty project, it is stable, if 81 tracks or more, 100% fails. in a working project, fewer tracks are required to cause a failure.
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