whose singing voice do you love or hate?

[mjudge55]

I just clicked on the first regina spektor song and yea, the vocals are in that vein

Yeah, this stuff I can't abide. No slight to Ms. Spektor she's got talent and I appreciate the craft. But like yeah if a person listens to this alongside Mazzy Star yes I think we can agree there are aspects of the singing that are aligned but the total effect is slightly/crucially different. Like on the druggy scale I'd say Mazzy's quite a bit ahem higher for starters.

[ghettosynth]

I just clicked on the first regina spektor song and yea, the vocals are in that vein

Yeah, this stuff I can't abide. No slight to Ms. Spektor she's got talent and I appreciate the craft. But like yeah if a person listens to this alongside Mazzy Star yes I think we can agree there are aspects of the singing that are aligned but the total affect is slightly/crucially different. Like on the druggy scale I'd say Mazzy's quite a bit ahem higher for starters.

Agreed.

[RunBeerRun]

I used to listen to Paula Abdul when I attended school and she said to me and I quote ; "are you going to finish that sandwich"

and I told her I'm not hungry I already ate at Arby's

[BONES]

LIKE:
J.G. Thirlwell of various Foetus incarnations
Douglas McCarthy from Nitzer Ebb
Jean-Luc DeMeyer from Front 242
Marc Heal from Cubanate
Wagner from Dance or Die
Cy Curnin from The Fixx (best voice in Rock)
John Lydon (mostly for what he says, not necessarily for his voice)
Richard Butler from The Psychedelic Furs (for the utter uniqueness of his vocal style)
Malcolm Owen from Ruts

ABSOLUTELY f**king HATE:
Morrissey (twat)
Bjork and her million sad imitators
Tones and I (Toni WIlson) who sings like a f**king child
Eddie Vedder and everyone else who sings from the back of their f**king throat
Bob f**king Dylan
Anthony Kiedis - have you heard this prick live? He can't sing to save his f**king life.

Anything else I can put up with if the song is good which, of course, instantly precludes about 95% of the music you've ever heard.

[VOODOO U]

I just clicked on the first regina spektor song and yea, the vocals are in that vein

Yeah, this stuff I can't abide. No slight to Ms. Spektor she's got talent and I appreciate the craft. But like yeah if a person listens to this alongside Mazzy Star yes I think we can agree there are aspects of the singing that are aligned but the total effect is slightly/crucially different. Like on the druggy scale I'd say Mazzy's quite a bit ahem higher for starters.

Yeah with Mazzy Star it feels like they are doing what the songs call for in all regards esp. vox. With, lets just say, other artists in regards to the singing style we are discussing, it feels forced.
The singing style comes across as "too cool for school I'm a musician, hip and with it".
I really don't know how else to describe it.
I guess what I mean to say is Mazzy feels natural more so than most of the rest - in similar styles - that followed.

[VOODOO U]

ABSOLUTELY f**king HATE:
Morrissey (twat)

The thing with the Smiths is I cannot hear any other vocalist giving justice to Johnny Marr's writing. I like one or two songs from Morissey's solo output and yea his vocals can get tiresome but it fit like a glove for the Smiths.

[Aloysius]

Ian Gillan had a great voice back in the day with Deep Purple. I always hated David Coverdale's fake voice.

[1234Hi5!]

Bjork is inimitable, can definitely do her thing live too - listen to the union chapel bootleg

Very much agreed about tones and I though - f**king awful, same with Regina Spektor - I cannot stand that overly affected vocal thing

[BONES]

The thing with the Smiths is I cannot hear any other vocalist giving justice to Johnny Marr's writing. I like one or two songs from Morissey's solo output and yea his vocals can get tiresome but it fit like a glove for the Smiths.

I never heard anything in any Smiths song that made it worth listening to that unbearable dickhead's drone.

Bjork is inimitable, can definitely do her thing live too - listen to the union chapel bootleg

I wish!

[mumpcake]

ABSOLUTELY f**king HATE:
Morrissey (twat)

The thing with the Smiths is I cannot hear any other vocalist giving justice to Johnny Marr's writing. I like one or two songs from Morissey's solo output and yea his vocals can get tiresome but it fit like a glove for the Smiths.

I've heard a Johnny Marr sing a few Smiths songs. I'm not sure that if I hadn't been accustomed to hearing Morrissey's voice on them, that my first thought would be "This song needs Morrissey singing it".

[mjudge55]

I get the Moz hate, and totally disagree with it. He's a force of nature. Take him out of Smiths song and you still have a good song, but nothing more. And as Moz's solo career shows, take Marr out of the picture and something crucial is also lost... usually.

[mjudge55]

Also with Bjork, again I get the hate but Homogenic is a 10/10 and that is fact based, not an opinion.

[mjudge55]

I just clicked on the first regina spektor song and yea, the vocals are in that vein

Yeah, this stuff I can't abide. No slight to Ms. Spektor she's got talent and I appreciate the craft. But like yeah if a person listens to this alongside Mazzy Star yes I think we can agree there are aspects of the singing that are aligned but the total effect is slightly/crucially different. Like on the druggy scale I'd say Mazzy's quite a bit ahem higher for starters.

Yeah with Mazzy Star it feels like they are doing what the songs call for in all regards esp. vox. With, lets just say, other artists in regards to the singing style we are discussing, it feels forced.
The singing style comes across as "too cool for school I'm a musician, hip and with it".
I really don't know how else to describe it.
I guess what I mean to say is Mazzy feels natural more so than most of the rest - in similar styles - that followed.

Ms. Sandoval's liability requires proof of causation, both proximate and but-for. We'll concede that but for her influence this style debacle would not have ensued, but she is neither proximate in time nor aesthetic to the bad acts described and therefore not liable.

[VOODOO U]

I never heard anything in any Smiths song that made it worth listening to that unbearable dickhead's drone.

Something tells me you have fantasies about Morrissey being your french maid and you're in denial.
Marr's songwriting is really good. And as a guitarist I do get a bit pissed off of his ability to flow from one odd chord to the next and make it sound beautiful. What a bastard that Marr is.

I've heard a Johnny Marr sing a few Smiths songs. I'm not sure that if I hadn't been accustomed to hearing Morrissey's voice on them, that my first thought would be "This song needs Morrissey singing it".

Well of course not. Your point is you find Johnny's voice suitable for the Smiths and it's all good.
I find Morrissey's approach to Marr's writing a good fit and wouldn't care to hear anyone else sing Smith tunes although if I did happenstance come across a good cover well then amen.
Phil Anselmo is a fan so lets start there in hearing a cover.

Ms. Sandoval's liability requires proof of causation, both proximate and but-for. We'll concede that but for her influence this style debacle would not have ensued, but she is neither proximate in time nor aesthetic to the bad acts described and therefore not liable

People who are infuential do cause reactions but of course they can't be held reliable.
Hope, or any artist for that matter, can't control what other subsequent artists do with their art. If these subsequent artists want to ride the coattails of those before them that's their prerogative love it or hate it.
Mazzy Star did make enough of an impact to influence others. What comes out of that....it is what it is. Whether or not they can be credited with influencing the Regina Spektor types, that's for each to decide.
I would say yes.
In fact I would say Mazzy Star made a much bigger impact in influencing many artists than they are credited for. Like a hidden gem.
I wouldve said the same for Fiona being a hidden gem but she's gotten to be pretty famous.
In the States she manages to sell out amphitheaters. That's rock star status in my book.

[mjudge55]

Ms. Sandoval's liability requires proof of causation, both proximate and but-for. We'll concede that but for her influence this style debacle would not have ensued, but she is neither proximate in time nor aesthetic to the bad acts described and therefore not liable

People who are infuential do cause reactions but of course they can't be held reliable.
Hope, or any artist for that matter, can't control what other subsequent artists do with their art. If these subsequent artists want to ride the coattails of those before them that's their prerogative love it or hate it.
Mazzy Star did make enough of an impact to influence others. What comes out of that....it is what it is. Whether or not they can be credited with influencing the Regina Spektor types, that's for each to decide.
I would say yes.
In fact I would say Mazzy Star made a much bigger impact in influencing many artists than they are credited for. Like a hidden gem.
I wouldve said the same for Fiona being a hidden gem but she's gotten to be pretty famous.
In the States she manages to sell out amphitheaters. That's rock star status in my book.

The thing is though if Mazzy Star had sucked hard for the same reasons as the folks they directly influenced then I'd certainly blame them. It just happens they were good and got ripped off by people who are probably technically more proficient but don't have anything to say. Therefore innocent. Fiona Apple I do not like and the people who rip her off suck mostly in the same way so I do hold her to account. Not in any real way -- she's very talented and I'm sure a nice person, just not my cuppa.