What r u not buying any more+?
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
I have way, way, way too much stuff.
To buy more it just has to be top class. No more buying stuff because it's cheap, or a good deal.
To buy more it just has to be top class. No more buying stuff because it's cheap, or a good deal.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I won't buy cheap l, low quality plugins anymore.
Never use them....
Never use them....
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
Weird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
About 2.5 years ago I had a one year subscription and maybe 4 out of 100 plugins got some use, most of their plugins are less than mediocre, they don't even offer a decent reverb, that's weak!_leras wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 amWeird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
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- KVRAF
- 2508 posts since 24 Jul, 2017
Same here. The offers have become worse, and I find myself reaching for the same stuff all the time anyway. It's just too much choice.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:07 pmAbout 2.5 years ago I had a one year subscription and maybe 4 out of 100 plugins got some use, most of their plugins are less than mediocre, they don't even offer a decent reverb, that's weak!_leras wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 amWeird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
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- KVRAF
- 5093 posts since 30 Aug, 2012 from Sweden
A mediocre craftsman blame on the tools.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:07 pmAbout 2.5 years ago I had a one year subscription and maybe 4 out of 100 plugins got some use, most of their plugins are less than mediocre, they don't even offer a decent reverb, that's weak!_leras wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 amWeird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
Plugin Alliance is not even worth a discussion, Dirk!Daimonicon wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:49 pmA mediocre craftsman blame on the tools.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:07 pmAbout 2.5 years ago I had a one year subscription and maybe 4 out of 100 plugins got some use, most of their plugins are less than mediocre, they don't even offer a decent reverb, that's weak!_leras wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 amWeird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Dirk has left the boat and is sipping tequilla cocktails in his waterfront villa in Florida.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:56 pmPlugin Alliance is not even worth a discussion, Dirk!Daimonicon wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:49 pmA mediocre craftsman blame on the tools.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:07 pmAbout 2.5 years ago I had a one year subscription and maybe 4 out of 100 plugins got some use, most of their plugins are less than mediocre, they don't even offer a decent reverb, that's weak!_leras wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 amWeird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 25 Jan, 2024
its not only that but lack of oversampling, presence of aliasing.. there are a few nice plugins maybe -- but nothing that could not be substituted imo_leras wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 amWeird mindset.xrr12 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 pm Plugin Alliance. All plugins feel worthless because of their sale strategies. i support tdr, klanghelm and other more serious developers.
PA offer some incredible plug ins from a bunch of different developers. Some of these are also absolute bargains.
This is incredible value and really not worthless at all.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
i stopped buying anything plugins last year first half or so. im fed so to say. after ten years now i think its a normal process. the only things left from last years wishlist are u-hes filterscape and maybe mfm.
synths, definitely no more. daw, no more a few years ago. mix n master fx, no more.
hardware, yes.
carbon 8 x would be killer^^
synths, definitely no more. daw, no more a few years ago. mix n master fx, no more.
hardware, yes.
carbon 8 x would be killer^^
[aˈtoːm] [aːl] [ˈa(ː)tonaːl] IV
https://soundcloud.com/atomaalatonal4
https://soundcloud.com/atomaalatonal4
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- KVRAF
- 1763 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy
I don’t buy things because I’m already pretty much covered. I still buy when my tools can’t do the job, or whenever a new tool brings some advantages…
Beside the cost, too many options can lead to a decision paralysis situation.
I still have a few hardware pieces in my wishlist (I don’t really need them, but I want them!), but I don’t need any flavour-of-the-day brand new plugin/hardware (and I rarely feel excited at the idea of spending money on new gear).
Beside the cost, too many options can lead to a decision paralysis situation.
I still have a few hardware pieces in my wishlist (I don’t really need them, but I want them!), but I don’t need any flavour-of-the-day brand new plugin/hardware (and I rarely feel excited at the idea of spending money on new gear).
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- Banned
- 31 posts since 22 Jun, 2023
- KVRAF
- 7026 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I can't and won't commit to not buying anything. I have a small set of tools (plugins) that I use for specific purposes, and try to avoid duplication. I don't "collect" plugins for presets anymore. I specifically try to have the right tool for the job, for whatever it is I do. That said, I am always on the constant lookout for better tools--better sound quality, easier to use, less hassle, etc. What I have so far been able to commit to, is to not buy anything that doesn't have my strict copy protection standards. I only use serial number or keyfile authorization, and with serial number or keyfile authorization, the plugins must not tie themselves to a particular piece of hardware or anything like that, and they must not have to call home for any reason. I should be able to copy my application and my serial number to my backup hard drive, and three years from now be able to reinstall it to my computer without any internet interaction whatsoever.
That said, I have found that I have a couple of areas that I may end up having to break my hard rules. I use Linux, and I have almost everything I could want, but there are a couple of things that are really exceptions:
1. My hands are giving me more pain these days, and I'm now on the lookout for the highest quality virtual guitar simulators, to replace my guitar usage when I don't feel like playing. I'm not talking amp sims, but rather, guitar sims. There aren't many high quality options for this in Linux, so I'm probably going to have to break down and use WINE and a Windows plugin. These available plugins use C/R copy protection.
2. My voice over the last 20 years has progressively degraded, and I seem to have more and more difficulty with controlling it. I'm not happy with my voice, and I've been really impressed with Synthesizer V. While there is a Linux version, the program itself uses C/R. There really isn't much in the way of competition for this spectacular plugin, so I'm likely going to have to break my rule for this one too.
That said, I have found that I have a couple of areas that I may end up having to break my hard rules. I use Linux, and I have almost everything I could want, but there are a couple of things that are really exceptions:
1. My hands are giving me more pain these days, and I'm now on the lookout for the highest quality virtual guitar simulators, to replace my guitar usage when I don't feel like playing. I'm not talking amp sims, but rather, guitar sims. There aren't many high quality options for this in Linux, so I'm probably going to have to break down and use WINE and a Windows plugin. These available plugins use C/R copy protection.
2. My voice over the last 20 years has progressively degraded, and I seem to have more and more difficulty with controlling it. I'm not happy with my voice, and I've been really impressed with Synthesizer V. While there is a Linux version, the program itself uses C/R. There really isn't much in the way of competition for this spectacular plugin, so I'm likely going to have to break my rule for this one too.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 2648 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
Haven't bought any music software for a couple of years. I have decent amount of stuff already and I have kinda stopped caring about anything new.
If anything, I'd buy:
Full accurate emulation of Ensoniq Fizmo, MR/ZR, TS12 and DP4+.
Full accurate emulation of E-MU Proteus 2500 with all the ROM-s. Fortunately the Emulator X3 still works but its interface is rather small on modern day screens.
Full accurate emulation of Yamaha FSR1.
That's pretty much all the things I still would care about.
If anything, I'd buy:
Full accurate emulation of Ensoniq Fizmo, MR/ZR, TS12 and DP4+.
Full accurate emulation of E-MU Proteus 2500 with all the ROM-s. Fortunately the Emulator X3 still works but its interface is rather small on modern day screens.
Full accurate emulation of Yamaha FSR1.
That's pretty much all the things I still would care about.
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