No latency(no pre ringing)-linear phase eq?

[Rockis]

I don't know if this is possible technically
But i hope meldaproduction make no latency-no pre ringing-linear phase eq.....
I believe melda can do this(?)

[Hexspa]

I don't know if this is possible technically
But i hope meldaproduction make no latency-no pre ringing-linear phase eq.....
I believe melda can do this(?)

May I ask why you'd want this? I can understand no latency but the main advantage of linear phase EQ that I'm aware is the ability to use pass filters without phase shift. For bell filters, you're just trading post ringing for preringing with the more narrow and greater magnitude producing more ringing. Every filter will ring one way or another, as far as I know based on the concept of minimum phase.

[MirkoVanHauten]

I don't know if this is possible technically

No. The laws of physics too apply in the meldaverse.

[Rockis]

May I ask why you'd want this? I can understand no latency but the main advantage of linear phase EQ that I'm aware is the ability to use pass filters without phase shift. For bell filters, you're just trading post ringing for preringing with the more narrow and greater magnitude producing more ringing. Every filter will ring one way or another, as far as I know based on the concept of minimum phase.

It is just my wish or request.. i dont know deep technical side of eq.
I just think no pre and post ringing would sound more clean. And if it is possible, it would be kind of innovation. But even if melda team succeed in removing only the latency in linear phase eq, it would be still amazing.

[Held]

You can get linear phase when you run the audio twice through your analog EQ - backward and forward. That way, the phase shift is cancelled while the EQing is doubled. That doesn't work for real-time obviously. There's a Dan Worrall video out there, where he explains it, I think.

If someone found a way to filter a signal without phase shift or latency, it would be a pretty big discovery. I don't want to call anything impossible, but with our current mathematical tools, it pretty much looks like it is.

[Hexspa]

You can get linear phase when you run the audio twice through your analog EQ - backward and forward. That way, the phase shift is cancelled while the EQing is doubled. That doesn't work for real-time obviously. There's a Dan Worrall video out there, where he explains it, I think.

If someone found a way to filter a signal without phase shift or latency, it would be a pretty big discovery. I don't want to call anything impossible, but with our current mathematical tools, it pretty much looks like it is.

Afaik you're thinking of "minimum phase" where a boost can be reversed though an identically-opposite cut but then you're left with unity gain and zero change. I'll be happy to watch the video though if you can find the link.

"Every filter must ring" is a quote from some audio guru but I forget who. I can guarantee that all current filters ring, like Held said, and barring a huge breakthrough in math, that will be the case for the foreseeable future.

[MeldaProduction]

I don't know if this is possible technically

No. The laws of physics too apply in the meldaverse.

Yep, very true

[MeldaProduction]

For the record, so you can understand - imagine just a single impulse, it contains all frequencies. So you want an EQ, that would make say a low-pass, don't add any pre-ringing and be linear-phase. So it can either do nothing with the impulse, that way you'd just have an impulse again, with all the frequencies. OR it can alter the signal behind it and there you have minimum phase . So what you want is a minimum phase EQ