TAL-Pha Released! Alpha Juno II Emulation from TAL-Software

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but probably worth posting again. These sysex files load nicely into Tal-pha.

http://llamamusic.com/mks50/mks-50_patches.html

Definitely worth reading the PDF notes before importing.

Thanks to ate.trax on the Bitwig community Discord server.

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briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:24 am Oh no, a hidden envelope! You mean if I want to tweak a preset I'd have to actually know the synth I'm working with and where things are? Good god, anything but that!
Hiding an optional envelope as mod source is only half the cake. How do you hide its mod destination(s) without cluttering the GUI? Yes. Me, as an emulation purist, could live with Env2 as an option in the VCA section. But do you want more? Env2 as DCO pitch modulator for example?

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You don't have to hide or even have a mod destination if it's hard coded. Just one click / one button would be needed to access the different envelopes..
Why are you making it like it would be so hard to implement? Just have 3 small buttons next to the env that is currently there, to select which one you wanna work on.. Just have the graphic update to whatever your currently tweaking.

In fact that's how many synths operate. When selecting a preset the knobs and faders don't change, unless you touch them.. Then they become active to the current patch. Nord lead did this.. Jd800 did this.. Heck I'm sure most synths worked like this..

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I'd rather he left it alone. He changed the UI for the sampler and absolutely ruined it. I don't want any tabbing shite on this.

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Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:09 pm You don't have to hide or even have a mod destination if it's hard coded. Just one click / one button would be needed to access the different envelopes..
Why are you making it like it would be so hard to implement?
It's not just one click and one button. You forget that nostalgia farts like me WANT that the main Env1 still works as intended. So your optional hard coded pitch and amp env tabs need at least an on/off button additionally each to override all things main Env1 is meant for.

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neverbeeninariot wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:55 pm Not sure if this has been posted yet, but probably worth posting again. These sysex files load nicely into Tal-pha.

http://llamamusic.com/mks50/mks-50_patches.html

Definitely worth reading the PDF notes before importing.

Thanks to ate.trax on the Bitwig community Discord server.
Again, would be nice to hear a comparison.
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Etienne1973 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:26 pm
Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:09 pm You don't have to hide or even have a mod destination if it's hard coded. Just one click / one button would be needed to access the different envelopes..
Why are you making it like it would be so hard to implement?
It's not just one click and one button. You forget that nostalgia farts like me WANT that the main Env1 still works as intended. So your optional hard coded pitch and amp env tabs need at least an on/off button additionally each to override all things main Env1 is meant for.


No it wouldn't need to override anything.. The filter and pitch env would be additional and separate... 😔
Anyways...
Last edited by Yoloswagger9 on Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:29 pm No it wouldn't need to override anything.. The filter and pitch env would be additional and separate... 😔
Anyways...
Send a request to TAL and move on. There are million synths out there with multiple envelopes that you can use.

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[nx] wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:37 pm
Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:29 pm No it wouldn't need to override anything.. The filter and pitch env would be additional and separate... 😔
Anyways...
Send a request to TAL and move on. There are million synths out there with multiple envelopes that you can use.
I'm not allowed to answer people now? To discuss?

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egbert101 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:27 pm
neverbeeninariot wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:55 pm Not sure if this has been posted yet, but probably worth posting again. These sysex files load nicely into Tal-pha.

http://llamamusic.com/mks50/mks-50_patches.html

Definitely worth reading the PDF notes before importing.

Thanks to ate.trax on the Bitwig community Discord server.
Again, would be nice to hear a comparison.
The developer demonstrating several sounds in comparison with an MKS-50 (Alpha rack mount version).
I can't be 100% sure, but it looks like he's using Tal-Pha to control the MKS-50 hardware too.


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Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:51 pm
[nx] wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:37 pm
Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:29 pm No it wouldn't need to override anything.. The filter and pitch env would be additional and separate... 😔
Anyways...
Send a request to TAL and move on. There are million synths out there with multiple envelopes that you can use.
I'm not allowed to answer people now? To discuss?
He didn’t say you are not allowed to. He suggested you move on. I imagine in order to stop spamming this thread with your 1 envelope, because the truth is, it’s so exhausting now and nobody here will be able to help you with that. Doesn’t matter how angry you get. Why don’t you email the developer (the only person in existence who can possibly help you) and let us know about his response? That would be more constructive.

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neverbeeninariot wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:55 pm Not sure if this has been posted yet, but probably worth posting again. These sysex files load nicely into Tal-pha.
Is Sysex load only available in the full version?

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neverbeeninariot wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:59 pm .....
I can't be 100% sure, but it looks like he's using Tal-Pha to control the MKS-50 hardware too.

He is..
"Optional direct hardware MIDI output for simple hardware control (on the top right)."
in 1.1.0 allows that.
When does Patrick sleep. I am now seeing a 1.1.1
Version 1.1.1 / 23.02.2024
Color theme file import/export.
Fixed LFO sync not working.
PW LFO (improved sound, more authentic behavior).
Fixed wrong delay sync delay time text introduced with previous version.
Minor fixes.
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Chris-S wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:30 pm
neverbeeninariot wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:55 pm Not sure if this has been posted yet, but probably worth posting again. These sysex files load nicely into Tal-pha.
Is Sysex load only available in the full version?
Have you tried? :~)

As far as I know, the only restrictions in the demo versions are occasional white noise. In theory, they should work.

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audiouser720 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:16 pm
Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:51 pm
[nx] wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:37 pm
Yoloswagger9 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:29 pm No it wouldn't need to override anything.. The filter and pitch env would be additional and separate... 😔
Anyways...
Send a request to TAL and move on. There are million synths out there with multiple envelopes that you can use.
I'm not allowed to answer people now? To discuss?
He didn’t say you are not allowed to. He suggested you move on. I imagine in order to stop spamming this thread with your 1 envelope, because the truth is, it’s so exhausting now and nobody here will be able to help you with that. Doesn’t matter how angry you get. Why don’t you email the developer (the only person in existence who can possibly help you) and let us know about his response? That would be more constructive.
So my thoughts and suggestions are not welcome here. That's OK. Have a great weekend I will indeed leave the thread. I won't contact the dev though, cause that's not my goal. My goal was to discuss it. But as soon as I reply and answer to posts directed towards me, i'm told to gtfo... It's cool. 8 upvotes in just an hour... Haha you don't even realise that just proves my point.... It's hilarious. Peace!

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