Daunting not only in the amount of information displayed, but also in the fuzziness of the type.Uncle E wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:59 pm Can we all agree that OB-E is daunting to look at? And that’s not just to beginners, if someone isn’t fully immersed in the peculiarities of Oberheim’s, they’re going to look at it and be confused about where to begin. They might even RTFM (gasp)!
New GForce OB-EZ
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 18 Mar, 2004
Great sounding, but as pointed out on another forum
-Modwheel is hard-coded to vibrato.
-Modwheel can be assigned to other parameters, but remains mapped to vibrato which can't be removed.
-Vibrato knob doesn't move when automated by MW.
-CC mapping is global so can't be saved with patch settings. This also means none of the included presets have anything as basic/useful as MW to cutoff assigned.
-CC mappings can't be saved or loaded.
-There's no range so any mapped controls are from the min to max parameter value.
Such simple things shouldn't be so hard (or impossible) for something marketed as being EZ.
-Modwheel is hard-coded to vibrato.
-Modwheel can be assigned to other parameters, but remains mapped to vibrato which can't be removed.
-Vibrato knob doesn't move when automated by MW.
-CC mapping is global so can't be saved with patch settings. This also means none of the included presets have anything as basic/useful as MW to cutoff assigned.
-CC mappings can't be saved or loaded.
-There's no range so any mapped controls are from the min to max parameter value.
Such simple things shouldn't be so hard (or impossible) for something marketed as being EZ.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 2 Mar, 2007
Well I snapped this up. I've been wanting one of GForce's Obie synths but couldn't really afford one.
For me this is great, I want the simple core tone, the presets sound great and tbh having access to filter cutoff, resonance and envelopes is fine for my purposes
For me this is great, I want the simple core tone, the presets sound great and tbh having access to filter cutoff, resonance and envelopes is fine for my purposes
- KVRAF
- 37409 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I don't think so - from the blurb it's meant to be a sort of 'best of'JerGoertz wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:49 am Sorry if this was stated earlier, but does anyone know whether OB-EZ has any new presets compared to OB-E?
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- Topic Starter
- 17761 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Not when I do it -MrJubbly wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:03 pm btw, "Bing" search engine incorrectly assumes that "OB-EZ" is a misspelling of the word "obese."
There's not even a hint of anything else here.
I've been using it for 15 yeas or more. It's great and Image of the Day is the best way to start your day. We do a lot of image searches at work and Bing generally puts the best results nearer the top than Google.Cue: the inevitable barrage of people asking why anyone would even use Bing.
This has come up before and I don't see any problem here. In fact, to me it is so crisp that looks like it's made with vector graphics -felis wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:49 amDaunting not only in the amount of information displayed, but also in the fuzziness of the type.
What OS are you using? I'm thinking it might be the way yours renders the GUI.
Why would they when they can use it to get you to buy the full thing? It's obviously meant as a gateway drug into their more expensive Obies, a taster for what's on offer, not a full course.
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- Topic Starter
- 17761 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Just reading some of the announcements on line, it seems that the ability to load OB-E presets is still in the works and should be available in "Spring 2024". I think that will make it a lot more useful. Even better would be the ability to load OB-EZ patches in OB-E.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- KVRAF
- 2313 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
OB-EZ patches to OB-E is what's coming in Spring, no mention of OB-E patches being usable in OB-EZ on the G-Force website, unless you've read something newer from them somewhere?BONES wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:27 pm Just reading some of the announcements on line, it seems that the ability to load OB-E presets is still in the works and should be available in "Spring 2024". I think that will make it a lot more useful. Even better would be the ability to load OB-EZ patches in OB-E.
From the G-Force website:
"Import OB-EZ user presets in OB-E* (* available in Spring)"
- KVRAF
- 14461 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
I know it is global but you can defeat this.. set modwheel sensitivity to off.AtomOfScent wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:11 am Great sounding, but as pointed out on another forum
-Modwheel is hard-coded to vibrato.![]()
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rsp
sound sculptist
- KVRAF
- 14461 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
Indeed.. afaik OB-EZ doesn't currently have an arp or sequencer so it can't read all OB-E presets anyway.Mr Arkadin wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:48 pmOB-EZ patches to OB-E is what's coming in Spring, no mention of OB-E patches being usable in OB-EZ on the G-Force website, unless you've read something newer from them somewhere?BONES wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:27 pm Just reading some of the announcements on line, it seems that the ability to load OB-E presets is still in the works and should be available in "Spring 2024". I think that will make it a lot more useful. Even better would be the ability to load OB-EZ patches in OB-E.
From the G-Force website:
"Import OB-EZ user presets in OB-E* (* available in Spring)"
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 9560 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
As it does not support MPE, the single module version is more interesting. I can load 8 instances and have each on a different Midi channel…
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- Topic Starter
- 17761 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Not with MPE, which uses all 16 channels on a single instrument. That's how it works. You'd need a separate MIDI port for each instance.
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Here is a fun one, if you have bought OP-EZ and try to buy the OB Bundel (currently on sale) you get this!
"Oberheim - The Bundle" cannot be added to your cart. "Oberheim OB-EZ" cannot be purchased.
This is not for you 'EZ' user, this is for big boys!
OK, I added the last bit
"Oberheim - The Bundle" cannot be added to your cart. "Oberheim OB-EZ" cannot be purchased.
This is not for you 'EZ' user, this is for big boys!
OK, I added the last bit
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
Or load 8 OB-E's and have 64 voices on 8 different midi channels.Tj Shredder wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:03 am As it does not support MPE, the single module version is more interesting. I can load 8 instances and have each on a different Midi channel…
