VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[seangm]

Here's a free expansion for Avenger 2. I used the factory sample content extensively so if Vengeance has an issue with me releasing these for free then I'll delete the link. My only intention is to contribute and not to disrespect any IP rights.

Anyway these aren't aimed at any particular genre but I think some of them prove fairly well that Avenger is not just an EDM machine. There are some cinematic presets and analog style filter sweeps, splits, arps, etc. They are not finished as I need to assign more modulation but if I keep tweaking them I'll never get around to releasing them.

I've had a lot of fun making, playing, and using these patches in projects so hopefully someone else will find them useful or at least entertaining.

Teksonik Avenger 2-01

Awesome, thanks for the nice sounds.

[msvs]

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[HallowedHouse]

Great videos from John Audio. I know Avenger reasonably well but I have learnt something new from each video. On the negative side, still no manual for version 2! It's pretty unbelievable considering the price for the synth or upgrade and saying that 'most users don't read manuals,' is just a misrepresentation and a cop out. It's like saying to play chess you don't need to know how the pieces move, let alone read a book to learn about chess strategy. Yes, many casual people just enjoy a game of chess, but believe me, good players take some time to learn how to play - same with music, don't you think? All I can imagine is that you are waiting for version 2.1 - but please be serious. I love Avenger, for me it's by far the best soft synth - please do all your brilliant work justice and provide an instruction manual!

[Jac459]

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Thanks! These videos series are awesome .
One question, do you plan any continuation on your 4 Guitar expansion series? Maybe also with some other instruments?
Thanks.

[msvs]

here is part 10, 1 more to go

[Jac459]

here is part 10, 1 more to go

This is so good. Should be on Netflix. This is my favourite TV show 2024.

[HallowedHouse]

Great video on modulation. Knew most of this apart from the lag function and most importantly, how to modulate groups of modulations with one macro button quickly. This is excellent teaching! Thank you for this.

[bilrobins]

Hey guys - is Avenger now more stable/improved since launch - CPU spikes, installation issues, etc? Also, is Avenger fairly snappy to use on a modern PC (i.e. does it feel well optimised - fast to load, fast to open patches, etc)?

[Jac459]

Hey guys - is Avenger now more stable/improved since launch - CPU spikes, installation issues, etc? Also, is Avenger fairly snappy to use on a modern PC (i.e. does it feel well optimised - fast to load, fast to open patches, etc)?

Yes 100%. I am on apple silicon which I believe where there was the most of the spike issue and the v2 (2.0.5 to be accurate) has fixed 100% of the issues.
The UI is much much better. Doesn't look like that at first but it is more resizable (I was never totally happy with the v1 size) and it is in 60 fps.
Installation issue I never had so I can't tell.

What I can tell you is that Avenger 2 is by far my favorite synth currently and I have about all the big synths arround. It really extremely powerful and this power is now much easier to harness with a much better UI... All my new songs are now 60% of Avenger 2...

Edit: I advise you strongly to see for yourself and watch the new series of tutorials. You will see that even on simple stuffs like VA oscillators, they managed to put some freakin good innovations that really differentiate them.

[m-ac]

Hey guys - is Avenger now more stable/improved since launch - CPU spikes, installation issues, etc? Also, is Avenger fairly snappy to use on a modern PC (i.e. does it feel well optimised - fast to load, fast to open patches, etc)?

That depends what you mean by CPU spikes. There are two completely separate issues - one where the cpu would spike whilst it was at rest, and another where the cpu spikes to 100% when playing. The first issue was fixed but I dont think the second has been as its trickier to pinpoint apparently. take a look through the thread to see how some people report issues and others dont.

[Jac459]

Hey guys - is Avenger now more stable/improved since launch - CPU spikes, installation issues, etc? Also, is Avenger fairly snappy to use on a modern PC (i.e. does it feel well optimised - fast to load, fast to open patches, etc)?

That depends what you mean by CPU spikes. There are two completely separate issues - one where the cpu would spike whilst it was at rest, and another where the cpu spikes to 100% when playing. The first issue was fixed but I dont think the second has been as its trickier to pinpoint apparently. take a look through the thread to see how some people report issues and others dont.

Sorry mate but I have to disagree on this one.
First, I never ever had 100% CPU spikes, it was more like 30%-50% spikes (I admit it is still way too much), second these spikes have absolutely disappeared. I have a track now running with about 20 instances of Avenger playing simultaneously, I have no spike at all and the overall CPU load is low.

Another remark is that even when there was spikes with V1, they weren't "adding up" like 4 instances of Avenger would cause more than 100% CPU and the sound to stutter.

Anyway, as I said, it is all good now at least in Apple silicon.

[m-ac]

Hey guys - is Avenger now more stable/improved since launch - CPU spikes, installation issues, etc? Also, is Avenger fairly snappy to use on a modern PC (i.e. does it feel well optimised - fast to load, fast to open patches, etc)?

That depends what you mean by CPU spikes. There are two completely separate issues - one where the cpu would spike whilst it was at rest, and another where the cpu spikes to 100% when playing. The first issue was fixed but I dont think the second has been as its trickier to pinpoint apparently. take a look through the thread to see how some people report issues and others dont.

Sorry mate but I have to disagree on this one.
First, I never ever had 100% CPU spikes, it was more like 30%-50% spikes (I admit it is still way too much), second these spikes have absolutely disappeared. I have a track now running with about 20 instances of Avenger playing simultaneously, I have no spike at all and the overall CPU load is low.

Another remark is that even when there was spikes with V1, they weren't "adding up" like 4 instances of Avenger would cause more than 100% CPU and the sound to stutter.

Anyway, as I said, it is all good now at least in Apple silicon.

Did you read my post? I said some people have issues and some don't.

[Jac459]

Hey guys - is Avenger now more stable/improved since launch - CPU spikes, installation issues, etc? Also, is Avenger fairly snappy to use on a modern PC (i.e. does it feel well optimised - fast to load, fast to open patches, etc)?

That depends what you mean by CPU spikes. There are two completely separate issues - one where the cpu would spike whilst it was at rest, and another where the cpu spikes to 100% when playing. The first issue was fixed but I dont think the second has been as its trickier to pinpoint apparently. take a look through the thread to see how some people report issues and others dont.

Sorry mate but I have to disagree on this one.
First, I never ever had 100% CPU spikes, it was more like 30%-50% spikes (I admit it is still way too much), second these spikes have absolutely disappeared. I have a track now running with about 20 instances of Avenger playing simultaneously, I have no spike at all and the overall CPU load is low.

Another remark is that even when there was spikes with V1, they weren't "adding up" like 4 instances of Avenger would cause more than 100% CPU and the sound to stutter.

Anyway, as I said, it is all good now at least in Apple silicon.

Did you read my post? I said some people have issues and some don't.

Yes I read your post sir, peace.

I still stand by what I sad and sorry to disagree.

I mean, sure, generally software companies have a support line so I guess some people have problems, for sure.

But my point is that last time we discussed about the spikes and AFTER the release of v2.0.5, there was basically 2 camps. The people who purchased the v2 and they were saying the problem is gone and then, a few (1, 2) person who didn't purchase the v2 and where saying the problem is not gone and we probably are all a bunch of fanboys, lying...
I think they were upset about avenger not proposing a demo.
While they may be right about being upset because of no demo, that doesn't mean the problem is not solved. And yes, it is solved.

[zvenx]

I am not sure how you can possibly disagree because the spikes have gone or don't happen on your machine.

At most all you can say is they don't happen to me.
Bit of a stretch to disagree that it still happens for others.
No?
rsp

[Jac459]

I am not sure how you can possibly disagree because the spikes have gone or don't happen on your machine.

At most all you can say is they don't happen to me.
Bit of a stretch to disagree that it still happens for others.
No?
rsp

Well, my computer is standard and generally I don't see why it would be specifically fixed in a way that wouldn't impact others.

But conceptually yes, you may be right (and I said it in my intro). But saying that it is fixed only for me is a stronger stretch that saying it is fixed for everybody.

But my main point remain, I tried to put it across more politely but allow me to be more direct;
The person is asking for a feedback on the tool. Not all the feedbacks are equivalent.
I see a ton of person commenting but not a lot having the synth...

Simmo75 has the synth and she said the same thing than me.

Others are just commenting ... "It might be buggy" yes sure, what value is that ? Do you have a personal experience to share?

So I am asking you the question, do you have the synth? Are you able to share a first hand experience? Or is it just coffee machine discussion?

Same question for m-ac, do you have the synth? Because if not, I don't see what is your base to say the synth has still issues (except than a guy not having the synth previously said it, it is a never ending story).