MuLab 9.5.34

[MuTools]

Just been looking at the sliders setup. When reset to default, they are White as shown in the pics above, so why is it when you specify a colour they change to the racks colour now? I mean, I know you changed how it works, but what I'm saying is why is the white recognised but not the actual colour that gets specified? I would prefer how I had it.

See this doc page:
https://www.mutools.com/info/M9/docs/mu ... -info.html -> Knobs and Sliders
More specifically click the doc page link about the knob designer.
There it is explained how knob coloring works.

[MuTools]

Of course it would be preferable to be able to see as much recognizable title in collapsed form, as many leading letters as possible.

Hover the title bar: You'll immediately see the full rack title

[sl23]

Sorry, I don't think I explained properly.
Currently, I use the Standard Vertical slider as my main Slider setup. They are, or were in the previous version, Orange outlined.
The default colour is White.
In the latest beta, the default White still works, whereas my selected colour does not, why is this? It makes the Standard Vertical slider null and void for Racks unless it's set as default, as you cannot now set a colour.

[MuTools]

Also here you seem to like repetition: Please properly read that doc page, it answers your question.

[sl23]

...it answers your question.

No it doesn't. But I don't want to appear repetitive do I!!

[MuTools]

Yes it does. The answer is literally there.

[sl23]

Ok, I'll play along...
These are the only things even close to what I am asking, and none answer my question...

• The standard knob is the main one and it's also used when other knobs in a set are inactive.

• Knobs are designed with a certain preview color but the effective color is defined at the point where the knob is used.

• So the preview color is not the final knob color, it's just a color that is used to preview the knob design.

Why don't they answer my question, you ask?
Because you aren't understanding my question or I am not stating it correctly, sorry if that is the case. But I am seriously tired from insomnia!
I think you are focusing on the latter part of my question instead of as a whole. The default Rack slider is white, yes?! So why isn't it affected by the Rack colouring? But as soon as I change the look by loading a preset that uses the very same 'Standard' button in the Slider configuration window, voila, it then changes colour. So I am asking, why doesn't the Default Slider change colour?

That question is not answered in the docs.

[MuTools]

Black, white, or any other grayscale don't have any color saturation hence there is no visual change when recoloring ie. when changing the hue. Google for Color HSL. Wish you a good night.

[sl23]

That is not answering the question either I'm afraid. Sorry you are getting offended by my question, but Jo, in the nicest possible way and with the greatest respect, you are not always right. This is a stance I've seen many times, and have been frustrated by it to the point where you banned me. I get that we all have a pov, but my question is still unanswered. Because you think you see it right, whereas you are misunderstanding my point. If I seem to be repeating myself, it's because I am not being understood. But don't worry, I don't wish to agitate or upset you in any way, so I'll leave it and apologise for my query and my statement that will also likely upset you, even though it is not intended that way.
I wish you a good night too...

[MuTools]

you are not always right.

Of course not. Luckily !!
Otherwise that would mean i cannot learn anymore, which would decrease my life quality with 40%

you banned me

Surely not for having different opinions, which can be interesting, but because you were very rude and insulting, not only to me but also to others. You know you were wrong and asked for a 2nd chance, which you have received.

you are misunderstanding my point

Then rephrase your point visually, with screenshots or screenvideo.

But not today anymore please.
Please lets first give this a good night of rest.

[sl23]

Sure, I was, but it was out of frustration and a bad timing in my life too! But thank you for not taking my post the wrong way.

[sl23]

When you're rested... I think I may have found a bug?
I have created a new rack placed a VST2 in it, then tried copy and pasting a VST3 from a different rack to the new rack. I am asked if I want to Overwrite (no undo) and I click yes, but the original VST2 remains in the rack. I then deleted the VST2 and the VST3 appeared.
Will test some more to see if it's repeatable.

[dakkra]

Hoping this helps to explain both sides here

Personally I like matching the rack color, but maybe a preference would be good to switch between the two color behaviors.

Sorry for getting involved, just wanted to help clear up both sides so we're no longer arguing

[sl23]

I get how hsl and luminamce works, it just wasn't explained in a way I understood. I think I get what you're saying now, I'll take a look tomorrow. Perhaps it's a translation thing?

What you're saying is that a pure white setting doesn't change colour, yes? So even when a rack changes the colour of that white, it stays white, that's a really dumb way of putting it but I know what I mean lol

Thanks dakkra, sorry, it's been a really shitty wkend for me!

[MuTools]

Thx Dakkra for explaining HSL to SL.