Waveform 13 coming

[operandx]

Oh, forgot something important:

- no visual mute/solo indication on the tracks whatsoever // that's almost a deal-breaker of sorts for me

Not even remotely a deal breaker for me, the indicators on rhs of plugin area is quite suffcient for me. Hey, but we are all different

Maybe would be nice to auto show/hide Actions panel but I'd probably just use the current facility to use a keyboard shortcut to do that anyway.

[jens]

the indicators on rhs of plugin area is quite suffcient for me.

Not quite understanding what that means tbh...

Edit: I guess you men the "outputs panel"? I hate this (far too messy and kleinfitzelig for my taste) so I want to keep it hidden - and that is exactly the thing: if you hide it (which is existing functionality) muting/soloing becomes a headache of sorts

[operandx]

the indicators on rhs of plugin area is quite suffcient for me.

Not quite understanding what that means tbh...

Edit: I guess you men the "outputs panel"? I hate this (far too messy and kleinfitzelig for my taste) so I want to keep it hidden - and that is exactly the thing: if you hide it (which is existing functionality) mute/solo becomes a headache of sorts

rhs right hand side.

[jens]

I see... but yeah - hate it (did so since V1 - one of the worst design-decisions in the entire history of GUI-design if you ask me - a complete abomination) and want to hide it.

[bungle]

Tested for a day, but I don't see any huge step forward from 12.5 when you take the launcher out of the equation.
Automation clips are important to me, and don't exist, this actually surprised me a lot.
The more customising of the UI is non existent, is there some reason that it is overall hue/saturation etc, and not just a selection of UI items that can be coloured however you want? (Is there an XML somewhere that you can modify?)
The default colouring is ugly and a whole bunch of the fonts are unreadable because they are too small on a 1080p laptop, currently feels like somebody got it to look like Ableton in light colours, then when you try to go dark it turns in to some garish nonsense that becomes hard to look at for too long.
On the subject of fonts, why have a font selector that shows all available fonts when only a tiny tiny subset of fonts is even usable, 99% of fonts wont work because text just becomes garbled, just list supported fonts and stop trying to be fancy.
Wavetable is available for free and I still wouldn't use it, I have better options already.

Overall, first use for an hour or so was ticking a lot of boxes, but then the more you use it, a lot of the UI just feels unfinished, unrefined and bit poorly thought out, they need to take a step back on this and start to finish/refine some features, like full colour control of UI, better ways to deal with things that were not in Jules original vision for the software.

I keep coming back hoping to like the software again, but all these little niggles (just a couple mentioned above) and the fact there is zero interaction with the developers nowadays it seems, just makes it a no go, could be biased because of how much I once loved this software.

[FigBug]

Wavetable is available for free and I still wouldn't use it, I have better options already.

The Waveform version is quite different from the free version. Phase randomization controls, 2 filters, multi-stage envelope generators, more fx (eq, compressor, limiter, reverb), different wavetables, different presets, arp, macros.

[dysjoint]

Haven't fully explored Wavetable but it definitely looks more complete than the free version. Very nice addition to the package. Liking this update so far, even though I'm not interested in the clip launcher (yet)

[jjpscott01]

Having used Waveform 13 all day yesterday and this morning here are my thoughts. I already liked Waveforms workflow, GUI, and overall way of working so the new features weren't really huge for me personally. However, I haven't had a single issue with crashing, plugin problems, etc and that for me makes the update worth it. The last few versions the only thing I asked was that they would work on bugs, glitches, etc so that I had a stable environment to work in without interruption. I dont know the extent they worked on Stability for version 13 but I've now installed it on 3 of my machines and so far no issues there which makes me very happy. Also, the on-screen keyboard stays up and active after you click out of it to change presets which also is a nice change. Ironically, the new features don't really excite me that much(Though I do have to say I'm liking this Wavetable synth) but this seems like a refined version at least on my Windows 10 and 11 systems.

[jens]

Oh dang! I just realized it still open plugins behind the mixer!

Now that is bad! Seriously: how it is even possible this still isn't fixed? It's such a major f**k up!

[Jebedaias]

Well, just chose to upgrade from 12 (which I have installed, along with 11 since a few years back) to get it on discount. Whenever I try the Clip Launcher everything begins to stutter and run at a very low FPS. Tried restarting it a few times but this always happens (Windows 10, Intel Core i5, Radeon R9 380, 16 GB RAM).

Previous versions ran well, could it be some kind of settings conflict because of all these 3 versions being installed simultaneously ?

[jens]

Tracktion also keeps resizing the window of Melodyne's GUI in the weirdest and most unpredictable ways like the devs would be getting paid for it.

So it's the same as always basically it seems:

it looks really nice for the most part of it and appears to develop nicely, but whenever I try it I stumble across the weirdest showstoppers when doing the most basic stuff with it.

How do people actually use this productively?

- How do you mix, when you have to close the mixer whenever you want to open a plugin just in order to acess it's GUI?

- How do you use Melodyne (and I assume it's a similar thing with other plugins) when it keeps resizing its window semi-randomly each time you open it (and in ways that makes resizing itz properly a PITA)?

- How you progress with your song's production when you can't add additional take to existing ones?

[JordiTR]

That's the look of the wavetable synth on the pro-paid version. Is it different on the free version ??

wavetable_w13_pro.jpg

[JordiTR]

- no way to tint the track-headers without also tinting the timeline-background it seems?

Hi jens, do you mean that ??

waveform_coloured_background_tracks.jpg

[jens]

Yes, that is exactly what I meant - while it tints the track-headers, it also does the same with the timeline-background (which is eye-cancer inducing).

[Teksonik]

I have no need for a clip launcher,

Its not just a "clip launcher", it can also record your own clips in either audio or midi form. It makes for a fun way to jam and sketch something out. I guess its only of use in this way if you like to play stuff in live from a keyboard or midi device.

I do all my recording live from a midi keyboard or drum pads into clips and have since I started using Waveform 12.

So the clip launcher brings nothing new to me in that regards.