Muse - New 8-voice Synth from Moog!

[pdxindy]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C51C6rfL ... FlZA%3D%3D

[Old Norse]

Aho! (Sorry, I've been watching Reservation Dogs)

Sounds thrilling! Kind of hard to determine the voice structure from that clip though.

[egbert101]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C51C6rfL ... FlZA%3D%3D

Going to wait for a better quality sound example to make any judgements. Just wish Moog would reveal the specs and price, because it's no good for the majority of us that can't afford elite priced products.

[Hallo Spaceboy]

Going to wait for a better quality sound example to make any judgements. Just wish Moog would reveal the specs and price, because it's no good for the majority of us that can't afford elite priced products.

Yeah, if this costs more than $3,000 I really can't see a market for it. I realize that the (overpriced) 6-voice Sequential Prophet 6, OB6, and Trigon 6 keyboards all cost $3,500 and none of them includes a display. But still, $3,500 is a lot of money for a basic analog poly these days, especially when you can pick up a 16-voice Behringer UB-Xa for $1,200 that features polyphonic aftertouch.

[pdxindy]

Going to wait for a better quality sound example to make any judgements. Just wish Moog would reveal the specs and price, because it's no good for the majority of us that can't afford elite priced products.

Yeah, if this costs more than $3,000 I really can't see a market for it. I realize that the (overpriced) 6-voice Sequential Prophet 6, OB6, and Trigon 6 keyboards all cost $3,500 and none of them includes a display. But still, $3,500 is a lot of money for a basic analog poly these days, especially when you can pick up a 16-voice Behringer UB-Xa for $1,200 that features polyphonic aftertouch.

The Moog Muse is 8 voices and 61 keys so I cannot imagine it costing less than the P6, OB6 or Trigon and their 49 keys. Maybe $4500.

[Hallo Spaceboy]

The Moog Muse is 8 voices and 61 keys so I cannot imagine it costing less than the P6, OB6 or Trigon and their 49 keys. Maybe $4500.

if so, I'm out. I would rather spend another $500 and get a Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave keyboard and use that as my main keyboard controller. Of course the 3rd Wave and the Muse are apples and oranges. But I have room for only one more full-size keyboard.

[cryophonik]

Yeah, I'll be shocked if the Muse is under $4K. Not that I care - I'm perfectly happy with my NOT overpriced Prophet 6, OB-6, and Trigon 6.

[Jim Roseberry]

The construction of Muse looks similar to Matriarch.
ie: Doesn't have Aluminum Pitch and Mod Wheels like the Moog One (they look identical to those on Matriarch).
I expect it'll hit right about $5k.

If the Muse is significantly under $4k, that'll mean InMusic had it manufactured over seas.
I personally don't care where something is made... as long as quality is good.

When weighing all features, 3rd Wave isn't an inexpensive option... but it sounds very good, it's relatively easy to program, provides 24-voice polyphony, and is four-part multi-timbral.
While digital, for me... it's taking the place of what I hoped the MoogOne would be.
Almost a one-and-done... polyphonic synth.

[egbert101]

Moog Muse (formerly Mirror?) Leaked:

https://www.prolyd.no/moog-music/121298 ... -september

• Sonic inheritance from beloved Moog designs
— vintage discrete modular-lineage oscillators, a saturating mixer, dual classic transistor ladder filters, and discrete stereo amplifiers.
• Performative controls, intuitive layout, knob per function, and individual menus for every module. A powerful arpeggiator, sequencer and chord memory offer exponential musical inspiration.
• An unexpected diffusion delay effect: a hypnotic stereo processor inspired by golden era vintage digital rack delays with diffusing multi-tap behavior.
• The Modulation Oscillator that gives you a 3rd oscillator or powerful modulation driver, as well as a dedicated Pitch LFO, assignable envelopes, and triggered random generators, all routed via 16 modulation slots per voice per patch.
Polyphonic, Bi-timbral Analog Synthesizer
SOUND ENGINE Analog (Digital effects may be bypassed to maintain 100% analog signal path)
POLYPHONY 8 Voices
KEYBED 61 full-size weighted keys with Velocity and Aftertouch
CONTROLLERS Pitch Wheel, Modulation Wheel, Macro Knob, Keyboard Octave switch, Hold switch, Sustain Pedal input, Expression Pedal input – all pedal functions are assignable
PANEL CONTROLS 44 knobs, 16 sliders, 129 buttons – OLED screen
ANALOG VOLTAGE-CONTROLLED OSCILLATORS (x2) Selectable Triangle/Sawtooth mix, variable width Pulse wave, Octave (16’, 8’, 4’, 2’), Frequency (+/- 7 Semitones), Wave Mix (blends Triangle/Sawtooth with variable Pulse wave), FM routing and amount, Hard sync
ANALOG RING MODULATOR Ring modulation between Oscillators 1 and 2
ANALOG VOLTAGE-CONTROLLED MODULATION OSCILLATOR Selectable waveform (Sine, Sawtooth, Reverse Sawtooth, Square, Noise), Audio range toggle switch, Keyboard tracking, Keyboard reset, Unipolar switch, Pitch Modulation routing and amount, Filter Modulation routing and amount, Pulse Width Modulation routing and amount, VCA Modulation amount, Panning switch
ANALOG NOISE GENERATOR
ANALOG VOLTAGE-CONTROLLED MIXER Independant level control for OSC 1, OSC 2, RING, MOD OSC, and NOISE. Overall OVERLOAD control
ANALOG VOLTAGE-CONTROLLED FILTERS (x2) Moog transistor ladder filters (1 with highpass/lowpass modes), Cutoff Frequency, Resonance, KB Tracking Amount, Envelope Amount, Linked Operation, Routing (Series, Parallel, Stereo)
ENVELOPES (x2) Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release, variable curves per stage, Multi-trig, Loop, Velocity
ANALOG VOLTAGE-CONTROLLED AMPLIFIER Volume per Timbre, Pan position per Timbre, Pan Spread per timbre

DIFFUSION DELAY Configurable stereo signal processor, Delay Time Left, Delay Time Right, Feedback, Character, Mix, analog bypass switches

OUTPUT SECTION Master Volume, Headphones Volume, Low Cut EQ

LFO (x2) Rate, Amplitude, Waveform selection (Triangle, Sawtooth, Square, Sample-and-Hold, User customizable), Keyboard Reset

PITCH LFO Rate, Ramp Down through Triangle to Ramp Up Shape control, One-Shot Envelope toggle, Keyboard Reset, Pitch Modulation routing and amount

GLIDE Selectable glide type (LCR, LCT, EXP), Glide amount

CLOCK Clock rate, Tap Tempo

ARPEGGIATOR Per-timbre with Clock Division, Octave range, Pattern, Direction, Gate time, Rhythmic programming, etc.

SEQUENCER 64 step sequencer with Clock Division, Transport controls, Sequence chaining, Step editing, Modulation capabilities, and memory capacity of 16 banks of 16 sequences

PROGRAMMER Browser via OLED screen with 16 banks of 16 patches, Mod Map, Arpeggiator settings, Sequencer with per-step settings, Global settings, etc.

VOICE CONTROL Mono or poly voice count per timbre, Unison/Mono, Detune, Timbre editing, Voice stealing configuration

CHORD MEMORY Chord memory with per-key functionality

MOD MAP 16 modulation slots per timbre per patch with controllers and mathematical transform functions

REAR PANEL AUDIO OUTPUTS – Main Left, Main Right (¼" TRS)

HEADPHONES – Stereo ¼" (located on the front edge of the Left Hand Controller)

PEDAL INPUTS – Sustain, Expression (¼" TRS; Configurable through Mod Map or for use as ¼" TS CV inputs)

CONTROL VOLTAGE INPUTS – CV IN 1, CV IN 2 (1/8” TS)

CONTROL VOLTAGE OUTPUTS – CV OUT 1, CV OUT 2 (1/8” TS)

ANALOG CLOCK INPUT – CLOCK IN (1/8” TS)

ANALOG CLOCK OUTPUT – CLOCK OUT (1/8” TS)

MIDI – 5 Pin DIN MIDI IN, OUT, THRU; MIDI over USB USB –

USB-A Host Port for system and data backup, USB-B Port for connection with computers, class-compliant peripherals

[Old Norse]

More Muse images over on Matrixsynth... not very high resolution, but one gets the idea.

https://www.matrixsynth.com/2024/07/new ... .html#more
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[cryophonik]

Is it just me, or does it look more like Behringer's take on a Moog, than an actual Moog? And, no I don't mean that to sound like an insult - Behringer's synths look fine to me - but it just doesn't have that typical Moog aesthetic IMO.

[Uncle E]

It's InMusic's take on a Moog...

[egbert101]

Completely agree on the Behringer looking comment, and also agree that it's not necessarily bad. But I think the price is going to be something like 4K, so not cheap. And I think it will sound incredible, at least I bloody well hope so!

[Old Norse]

I like it a lot, a mixture of classic Moog, a little bit of Octave Cat and some System 100 if you look at it at an angle and squint a bit with the white slider caps

Apparently, the rectangular light-up buttons are a turn-off in some boroughs of the internet. Cheesy, they say...

[Uncle E]

Here's how it would look if you change it to CS-80-style knobs and fader caps: