Bye bye VST2

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Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:14 am None that are strictly CLAP-only, but certainly some which aren't available in VST. Most of these, for example: https://nakst.itch.io
wow. never seen anyone ever developing for FL's own plugin format... kudos for that :lol:
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sQeetz wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:33 pm
Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:14 am None that are strictly CLAP-only, but certainly some which aren't available in VST. Most of these, for example: https://nakst.itch.io
wow. never seen anyone ever developing for FL's own plugin format... kudos for that :lol:
It's never too late to find the world out there...

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wikter wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:54 am
sQeetz wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:33 pm
Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:14 am None that are strictly CLAP-only, but certainly some which aren't available in VST. Most of these, for example: https://nakst.itch.io
wow. never seen anyone ever developing for FL's own plugin format... kudos for that :lol:
It's never too late to find the world out there...
I mean... FL is pretty popular. Wonder why there isn't more of those.
IIRC FL native plugs have some perks over VST like per note automation and such
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defiantnerd wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:42 pm In the meantime, the clap-wrapper project allows you to use any CLAP plugin in Logic and Cubase. It is very lightweight (<500k binary size)
heh :D

If you know, you know.

I confess to being curious if it's possible to do a full port to GUI-less CLAP, as in 'for Mac, Windows and Linux, the way my retro and signed stuff is made'. I once had a CLAP all-in-one plugin made, but it was not maintainable the way the VCV Rack port is, and so I don't talk about it anymore. I don't like not fully supporting a format. I've never looked into whether there even IS a GUI-less, just-the-sliders format for CLAP.

If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means :)

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jinxtigr wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:31 am I've never looked into whether there even IS a GUI-less, just-the-sliders format for CLAP.

If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means :)
There is, e.g.
https://github.com/nofishonfriday/Lauri ... reo-plugin

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jinxtigr wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:31 am
If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means :)
https://github.com/baconpaul/clap-c99-d ... stortion.c

Did i never share this with you chris? That's a pure c (like compiles without a c++ compiler) no gui no external code except for clap implementation of a bad distortion.

it's still on my list to make a side-by-side of the single CLAP with a UI plugin from your stuff exactly the way I did rack. I should just do that one day and set up 'the button' and everything just like we did for VCV.

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Chris - check out surge discord for an idea about the above - let’s not discuss it on this … peculiar … thread here!

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baconpaul wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:01 pm
jinxtigr wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:31 am
If there was, well then I could show you what very lightweight really means :)
https://github.com/baconpaul/clap-c99-d ... stortion.c

Did i never share this with you chris? That's a pure c (like compiles without a c++ compiler) no gui no external code except for clap implementation of a bad distortion.

it's still on my list to make a side-by-side of the single CLAP with a UI plugin from your stuff exactly the way I did rack. I should just do that one day and set up 'the button' and everything just like we did for VCV.
Oh neat :) it still won't make me go 'bye bye VST2' any more than it's making me go 'bye bye compiling retro AUs that run on PPC Macs'.

I love the pid_MIX ID :)

If you decide to do something like that, maybe you should do a form of the c99-style one arranged so it's fairly obvious where you'd bring over the VST2/DSP code and adapt it. And then point me at it and let me hand-code for months until I have everything individually ported :) anyway talk to you on Surge Discord :D

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Fors just released their latest plugin as CLAP and AU(v2) only, macOS only as well. Seems like a risky strategy, but their m4l-only plugins did well enough in the past, so they might be able to pull it off.

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nanostream wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:22 am Fors just released their latest plugin as CLAP and AU(v2) only, macOS only as well. Seems like a risky strategy, but their m4l-only plugins did well enough in the past, so they might be able to pull it off.
Fors Tela is a nice little plugin... I'm using the CLAP version in Bitwig.

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