Punctus contra punctus
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Not wanting to be pedantic, but I do believe the phrase is "punctus contra punctum"
I do use a great deal of counterpoint, although I am sure that I break the 'rules' quite frequently.
Perhaps a better term for what I do is "polyphony".
I was always confused about whether "counterpoint" referred to the music itself, or to the pedagogical tool for teaching students how to write it.
I do use a great deal of counterpoint, although I am sure that I break the 'rules' quite frequently.
Perhaps a better term for what I do is "polyphony".
I was always confused about whether "counterpoint" referred to the music itself, or to the pedagogical tool for teaching students how to write it.
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
herodotus wrote:punctus contra punctum
I always thought that was a Latin Lovers' Kama Sutra stand!And how could anyone calling himself Herodotus ever seem pedantic?
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Okay, lets get this over with.
I chose "herodotus" (note the lower case first letter) as a screen name before I knew that KVR was going to be the next big thing for me. I had never spent this much time on a forum before and I didn't really think about it very much when I first came here.
Furthermore, when I first registered at KVR I had recently had an extremely humbling experience on Ebay, where every combination of letters I could come up with had already been taken as a screen name.
And so, I came to KVR because I had some questions about Tracktion. I was tired, and all I really wanted to do was render a project to wave so that I could burn a c.d. and listen to it on my car stereo. I was asked to submit a screen name. I cast my eyes about the room in desperation. My eyes light on a copy of "The Persian Wars" by Herodotus. I give it a try... It works!!!
Thats all there is to it. I am not a know-it-all. Promise. I am a total Newbie and I am well aware of it.
Please don't hate me!!!!
I chose "herodotus" (note the lower case first letter) as a screen name before I knew that KVR was going to be the next big thing for me. I had never spent this much time on a forum before and I didn't really think about it very much when I first came here.
Furthermore, when I first registered at KVR I had recently had an extremely humbling experience on Ebay, where every combination of letters I could come up with had already been taken as a screen name.
And so, I came to KVR because I had some questions about Tracktion. I was tired, and all I really wanted to do was render a project to wave so that I could burn a c.d. and listen to it on my car stereo. I was asked to submit a screen name. I cast my eyes about the room in desperation. My eyes light on a copy of "The Persian Wars" by Herodotus. I give it a try... It works!!!
Thats all there is to it. I am not a know-it-all. Promise. I am a total Newbie and I am well aware of it.
Please don't hate me!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
Hey man, I was just kidding! Welcome to KvR! Nice story BTW. It's a good counterpoint to this thread.herodotus wrote:Please don't hate me!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
OK hjack, you asked for it: I googled "hjack" and I found a picture of you:hjack wrote:don't worry, its not everybody in the mood to google about itherodotus wrote:Please don't hate me!!!!
What's that funny thing on your head? Do you sneak up to blue pinguins maybe? Don't they have goats where you live?
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
Damn, you found a picture of me! Of me both! Scary...
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- KVRAF
- 7879 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
hold on a sec...
you still had Herodotus on your shelf!
I bet it was right next to Thucydides you big history nerd!
you still had Herodotus on your shelf!
I bet it was right next to Thucydides you big history nerd!
..what goes around comes around..
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- KVRist
- 433 posts since 14 Apr, 2002 from Caracas Venezuela
I had to study counterpoint and fugue (6 levels)
While I agree a new composer needs to know all about polyphonic music, making a fugue is a pain in the a** and not much practical these days.
I think the important part is to learn about balanced melodies and how to measure the degree of "beauty" (usefulness) inside it, species and horizontal structures, so to make easier for the student to understand there is something more than just homophonic chord progressions and a melodic line on the top, which is the main problem with today's new composition students.
maybe thats my appreciation of it after long periods squeezing my head to comply with all rules inside severe counterpoint, but It's a puzzle, even my teacher admited it wasn't so practical to make a complete fugue at the end, only 2 of 16 students could finish it. (I could finish about 60%)
It's an amazing science and I still love it
While I agree a new composer needs to know all about polyphonic music, making a fugue is a pain in the a** and not much practical these days.
I think the important part is to learn about balanced melodies and how to measure the degree of "beauty" (usefulness) inside it, species and horizontal structures, so to make easier for the student to understand there is something more than just homophonic chord progressions and a melodic line on the top, which is the main problem with today's new composition students.
maybe thats my appreciation of it after long periods squeezing my head to comply with all rules inside severe counterpoint, but It's a puzzle, even my teacher admited it wasn't so practical to make a complete fugue at the end, only 2 of 16 students could finish it. (I could finish about 60%)
It's an amazing science and I still love it