Poll - Do you prefer to use factory presets or your custom sounds in VSTs?
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- KVRist
- 242 posts since 21 Feb, 2022
I tend to roll the sounds from init for each tune I make. Occassionally loading in a preset, either my own or from someone else. The exception is Pianoteq, in which I use the factory presets with small adjustments. The simple reason being that the factory presets are pretty hard to improve upon.
This way the sound design and songwriting get mixed up into one process, which I actually have mixed feelings about. I'm quite sure that my productivity would benefit from separating these processes more. My experience, and that of other producers I trust, seem to confirm that. But the habit is now strong enough that it'd take real discipline to change.
This way the sound design and songwriting get mixed up into one process, which I actually have mixed feelings about. I'm quite sure that my productivity would benefit from separating these processes more. My experience, and that of other producers I trust, seem to confirm that. But the habit is now strong enough that it'd take real discipline to change.
- KVRAF
- 15211 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I will often use presets, but always tweak them. Sometimes so much that they don’t bare much resemblance to the original preset. I’m just as likely to program from an init patch, it depends on my mood. One thing that I notice I’ll do is program a bunch of presets when I first get a synth and then never use those presets for anything, but program all new ones when I start to work on a track.
It’s probably my way of learning the ins and outs of a synth.
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- KVRAF
- 3350 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I also like to do presets in order to play around with a new synth... Generally with types of sound I am used to in order to compare workflows. Then I try to add a twist specific to the synth... And then forget about these presets. Except with Twin 3 where I created a song I so loved that I build a whole song about it lol...zerocrossing wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 3:11 pm I will often use presets, but always tweak them. Sometimes so much that they don’t bare much resemblance to the original preset. I’m just as likely to program from an init patch, it depends on my mood. One thing that I notice I’ll do is program a bunch of presets when I first get a synth and then never use those presets for anything, but program all new ones when I start to work on a track.It’s probably my way of learning the ins and outs of a synth.
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
With synthesizers I almost always go from an initialized sound. I'd rather spend time making sounds than spend time scrolling through presets. This is just how I got used to making music. I don't have many strong feelings one way or another about presets although I have, a few times, heard a completely unmodified preset on an album by artists I really like used very up front and it did give me an icky feeling.
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- KVRist
- 413 posts since 1 Jul, 2023
Worth reiterating this. While I will do a cursory scroll through presets when I install a new synth, assessing an entire bank is just mind numbingly boring and I usually give up almost instantly. For the majority of my synths, I've probably listened to 10% of the presets. So who knows, maybe I'd be a total preset whore if I had the attention span to actually listen to them all
Otoh, if I buy a bank, I will go through most of them and favourite them, etc but even that bores the hell out of me. But I would have tens of thousands of presets that will never grace my ear canals. A few seconds per preset times many many thousands is just time I don't have.
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- KVRian
- 702 posts since 18 Sep, 2010
Especially when testing a synth on a time-limited trial before purchasing, I find factory and pro presets invaluable to evaluate a synth's strengths and range. Pro presets, in particular, can often bring out features and combinations of settings that one might otherwise overlook. Generally, the more familiar I get with a synth, the more I focus on rolling my own.
- KVRAF
- 2329 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
I do a lot of original patches but as time passes i will more often use presets and modifry them. Sometimes to the point of changing everything. Waaay back i made all my patches from scratch as there was no patch memory.
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- addled muppet weed
- 106532 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i dont think its ideologically impure to use presets, but i was one of those 8.noiseboyuk wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 11:41 am Good poll though. As I type it's 22 / 8 from those who use presets to some degree to those who think that is ideologically impure.
i just enjoy making my own sounds, its all part of the fun for me.
- KVRAF
- 2102 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
you just sample youtube videos and then you use paulstretch and call it a patch in your tal samplervurt wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:40 pmi dont think its ideologically impure to use presets, but i was one of those 8.noiseboyuk wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 11:41 am Good poll though. As I type it's 22 / 8 from those who use presets to some degree to those who think that is ideologically impure.
i just enjoy making my own sounds, its all part of the fun for me.
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- addled muppet weed
- 106532 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
thats not true at all!martiu wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:06 pmyou just sample youtube videos and then you use paulstretch and call it a patch in your tal samplervurt wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:40 pmi dont think its ideologically impure to use presets, but i was one of those 8.noiseboyuk wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 11:41 am Good poll though. As I type it's 22 / 8 from those who use presets to some degree to those who think that is ideologically impure.
i just enjoy making my own sounds, its all part of the fun for me.![]()
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 7 posts since 3 May, 2024 from Los Angeles, California
Whoa!
So many great, insightful responses in just a few short days!
Thank you to everyone who shared their input so far. I could understand how creating sounds from scratch is better for having your own unique sound and style for your music. But I also enjoy how presets can spark ideas, and help with finding a suitable sound quickly.
I am not going to stop using presets and editing them to my liking. I still look forward to synthesizing and finding my unique sound. I just know it's going to take a while, though. It just means I need to play around more with sound synthesis. Maybe the more I play, the faster I may find that sound.
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Thank you to everyone who shared their input so far. I could understand how creating sounds from scratch is better for having your own unique sound and style for your music. But I also enjoy how presets can spark ideas, and help with finding a suitable sound quickly.
I am not going to stop using presets and editing them to my liking. I still look forward to synthesizing and finding my unique sound. I just know it's going to take a while, though. It just means I need to play around more with sound synthesis. Maybe the more I play, the faster I may find that sound.
Thank you again to everyone who voted and/or posted a reply so far!
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