God forgive me I might change my DAW..
- KVRAF
- 15323 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Changing to different tools can be great for two reasons. First, the novelty can give your brain a squirt of serotonin. That doesn’t last forever, but it can make it more fun. Second, as you already know, new features can give you better ways to do what you’ve been doing or brand new ways of getting new results.
I switched to Bitwig because I got a Roli Rise 49, and while you could get MPE to work in Live, it was a clumsy workaround and general pain in the ass. It didn’t even support polyphonic aftertouch, which was something I was also eager to add back to my world. Bitwig supports both, and has the best MPE support out there. When I discovered all the modulation possibilities, I knew I had made a good decision. Bitwig’s not perfect, but in general, I can get what I want out of it without too much hassle.
Live added MPE and polyphonic aftertouch, and even integrated M4L into itself, giving it a more Bitwig like modulation capability list, but it was too late. Back when I switched to Bitwig, this was a hobby for me, but now I have deadlines, and I don’t think my employer would be too happy with me spending a lot of time learning the new features of Live, and I don’t feel like doing it on my time off and spending my own money to do it.
I switched to Bitwig because I got a Roli Rise 49, and while you could get MPE to work in Live, it was a clumsy workaround and general pain in the ass. It didn’t even support polyphonic aftertouch, which was something I was also eager to add back to my world. Bitwig supports both, and has the best MPE support out there. When I discovered all the modulation possibilities, I knew I had made a good decision. Bitwig’s not perfect, but in general, I can get what I want out of it without too much hassle.
Live added MPE and polyphonic aftertouch, and even integrated M4L into itself, giving it a more Bitwig like modulation capability list, but it was too late. Back when I switched to Bitwig, this was a hobby for me, but now I have deadlines, and I don’t think my employer would be too happy with me spending a lot of time learning the new features of Live, and I don’t feel like doing it on my time off and spending my own money to do it.
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- KVRian
- 688 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
I'm unsure if I understand. So, one can set a Reaper project to a key? Like C or F# etc.?
If that's the case I would assume there would be an option where dropped in samples/loops would automatically transpose to the key. No need for shortcuts.
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- KVRian
- 745 posts since 9 May, 2005
DP has some nice features.
If low latency performance is important to you, it's the worst of all the major DAWs.
- KVRAF
- 2305 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 6427 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Have never noticed any issues with DP and latency, I have 6 DAWs on this computer here. I mostly run at 128. I seem to recall version 8 having new improved latency performance, maybe it used to have latency issues? but even then there wasn't a noticeable difference to me.Jim Roseberry wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 3:43 pmDP has some nice features.
If low latency performance is important to you, it's the worst of all the major DAWs.
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- KVRian
- 745 posts since 9 May, 2005
FWIW, You won't notice it running at a 128-sample buffer size.machinesworking wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 2:11 pm Have never noticed any issues with DP and latency, I have 6 DAWs on this computer here. I mostly run at 128. I seem to recall version 8 having new improved latency performance, maybe it used to have latency issues? but even then there wasn't a noticeable difference to me.
At 44.1k, that's roughly 6ms round-trip.
I meant pushing the envelope more.. running 32-sample ASIO buffer size... where round-trip latency is 1-2ms.
With an empty project, couldn't play a single instance of The Grandeur without many glitches.
Haven't tested the past couple of versions... as that ruled it out (for my purposes).
Just downloaded the demo... and will run some tests.
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- KVRian
- 745 posts since 9 May, 2005
Just tested DP v11.31
Ultra low latency audio performance is roughly equal to Cubase.
It's a major improvement over what it was back in version 10.
Ultra low latency audio performance is roughly equal to Cubase.
It's a major improvement over what it was back in version 10.
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- addled muppet weed
- 106904 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 6427 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
DAWs are weird creatures, DP and Cubase used to be far far less CPU efficient than Logic ten years ago, but the Apple Silicon processors turned that on it's head. DP and Reaper (Cubase as well I hear) are using all cores including the efficiency cores, which translates to a significant track count difference from Logic, which is not. I would never expect Bitwig or Live to use them, but it is, strange that Logic has issues there? Efficiency cores are less powerful than Performance of course but they aren't slouches like some think, they're perfectly capable of holding the double buffer trick that Reaper, Cubase, DP and Logic do to get higher track counts. With 8 efficiency cores here, the difference is brutal, something like 106 in Logic to a 140 track tie with DP and Reaper. Tomorrow that could change, Logic could get control of efficiency cores.Jim Roseberry wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 5:05 pm Just tested DP v11.31
Ultra low latency audio performance is roughly equal to Cubase.
It's a major improvement over what it was back in version 10.
- KVRist
- 117 posts since 14 Aug, 2006
dp aint for me
Processor AMD PRO A10-8750B R7, 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G 3.60 GHz
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Installed RAM 32.0 GB (30.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
https://soundclick.com/guerillagenus
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- KVRian
- 791 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16553 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Also thinking of adding Bitwig to my repertoire. Was always put off by the thought of having to oay to upgrade 2 DAW. But now Logic 11 has arrived at zero extra cost, it looks like that will be less of a concern.
Been devouring BW Youtube content, and will probably start mucking around with the demo.
Been devouring BW Youtube content, and will probably start mucking around with the demo.
- KVRist
- 117 posts since 14 Aug, 2006
dp
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Processor AMD PRO A10-8750B R7, 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G 3.60 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (30.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
https://soundclick.com/guerillagenus
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (30.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
https://soundclick.com/guerillagenus