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noiseboyuk wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:54 pm Right, that's enough stuff about the difference between the generations in this thread. Can we move on to immigration and economics?
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egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:41 pm
Thank you 😂😂
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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Sad state of boomerhood.
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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:55 pm
egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:28 am There are definite differences between generations, and I definitely see a decline, socially, psychologically, politically, rationally,
i disagree, wholeheartedly.
Indeed. Tis of course the sacred duty of us old gits to complain about 'youth being wasted on the young', 'in my day', blah blah etc etc.
perhaps it's time that, instead of putting them down, we apologise for the state of things we are handing down.
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^^^ that ^^^
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glokraw wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:43 am
machinesworking wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:23 pm
egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:28 am There are definite differences between generations, and I definitely see a decline, socially, psychologically, politically, rationally, but I'm not going to dwell on the point.
of course you do, it's a universal psychological phenomena, not unlike "Paris/London/New York/Dublin/Tokyo/Berlin/Seattle is dying!", and it's always people over 40 who are claiming this.
And people under 40 are doing the dying. The fentanyl OD death stats are staggering :dog:
In 1980 there was a documentary about street children in Seattle that centered on a 13 year old girl Tiny, who was a prostitute, working in the middle of the city. Yet somehow every Karen on my Facebook feed thinks Seattle was better when child prostitution was "normal" enough to be filmed.

Try reading books like Jack Black - You Can't Win, and tell me how there's a "decline" in morality. There's a whole section about him visiting a Tenderloin bar in 1885 that specializes in one toxic moonshine, and the bodies that they drag out nightly.

Fentenyl is an issue no doubt, but there is no rosy perfect time to look back on, most of you are not smarter or more capable of surviving in the wilderness alone than your children, and honestly the younger generations are more likely to get mental health help, which translates to less f*cked up adults with issues. It doesn't mean they're "soft", haven't learned how to survive etc. There's this just bizarre disconnect with humans where the more unnecessary risks they take the more they think they're bullet proof.

I worked as a bike messenger in SF CA for a couple years in my teens, none of us wore helmets and every year someone died. It wasn't a better time. I don't look back on lawn darts and think that was a good idea, I see a greed pig company, foot and head injuries etc. You can go on youtube right now and watch videos of people on the news from the 60's and 70's talking about how lame it is that you can't drink and drive anymore, how unamerican seatbelts are...

Plus my generation Gen X is just cringy embarrassing on social media right now with this nonsense, no one gives a shit that you drank from a garden hose, the fact that your parents weren't able to raise you, latch key kids etc. doesn't make you tough, it makes you have mental issues, and the fact that most of them don't get help makes for more Karens and Kens melting down in public etc. The younger generations in general are in better shape than we were and are, we just have the money and resources to hide it, plus we avoided being diagnosed in the first place, which doesn't automagically mean we're more healthy.

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vurt wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:28 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:55 pm
egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:28 am There are definite differences between generations, and I definitely see a decline, socially, psychologically, politically, rationally,
i disagree, wholeheartedly.
Indeed. Tis of course the sacred duty of us old gits to complain about 'youth being wasted on the young', 'in my day', blah blah etc etc.
perhaps it's time that, instead of putting them down, we apologise for the state of things we are handing down.
not a chance.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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vurt wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:28 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:55 pm
egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:28 am There are definite differences between generations, and I definitely see a decline, socially, psychologically, politically, rationally,
i disagree, wholeheartedly.
Indeed. Tis of course the sacred duty of us old gits to complain about 'youth being wasted on the young', 'in my day', blah blah etc etc.
perhaps it's time that, instead of putting them down, we apologise for the state of things we are handing down.
Oh come on, Kontakt 7 isn't that bad.

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revvy wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:19 pm pointless-jpeg
And put the population growth curve in, too? Just the percentage would do...

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ramseysounds wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:19 pm
vurt wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:28 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:55 pm
egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:28 am There are definite differences between generations, and I definitely see a decline, socially, psychologically, politically, rationally,
i disagree, wholeheartedly.
Indeed. Tis of course the sacred duty of us old gits to complain about 'youth being wasted on the young', 'in my day', blah blah etc etc.
perhaps it's time that, instead of putting them down, we apologise for the state of things we are handing down.
not a chance.
taking responsibility is hard, i know.
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concealed identity wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:22 pm
vurt wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:28 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:55 pm
egbert101 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:28 am There are definite differences between generations, and I definitely see a decline, socially, psychologically, politically, rationally,
i disagree, wholeheartedly.
Indeed. Tis of course the sacred duty of us old gits to complain about 'youth being wasted on the young', 'in my day', blah blah etc etc.
perhaps it's time that, instead of putting them down, we apologise for the state of things we are handing down.
Oh come on, Kontakt 7 isn't that bad.
it's not just what we do hand over, but what we fail to hand over too.
poor younglings won't have access to absynth from here on :o
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pljones wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:39 pm
revvy wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:19 pm pointless-jpeg
And put the population growth curve in, too? Just the percentage would do...
In 1999 the population of the USA was 279.3 million and there were less than 20,000 OD deaths

In 2022 there were 333 million living in the US and 108,000 OD Deaths

That's a 20% growth in population and a 520% growth in overdose deaths between 1999 and 2022

Most overdose deaths in 2022 the last year we have data were from people over age 35 and the rates are actually decreasing for people under 35

Gen X is statistically more likely to die of an overdose than younger generations because we are older and have more heart disease so we die more when we OD. We are also due to generally having more money, better health insurance, and pain due to being older get addicted to prescription pain meds and then turn to heroin and fentanyl leading to over doses than younger Americans

Gen-X is leaving a drug culture to younger generations that we established in the 1980s and 1990s, and a medical community that over prescribes opiates because we demanded it

We also leaving behind a world with companies like Native Instruments and the entire Rick Astley and New Kids on the block music catalog
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