you can have licenses of 2 or more DAWs; music making is just music making.eluherlu wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 4:31 pmIf it's not a war, why don't we have only one DAW that have everything?mellotronaut wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 4:11 pmwhy "war"? do they destroy something and hurt or kill someone?
the update is impressive indeed.![]()
So we can make music with peace..
Ableton Live 12.1 is released! (Feb26 12.1.10 is out)
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- KVRAF
- 10170 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRian
- 1404 posts since 17 Oct, 2018
Ableton is absolutely cooking with version 12. I don't know if they hired some new folks or what but they are definitely putting in that work.
Studio One // Bitwig // Logic Pro // Ableton // Reason // FLStudio // MPC // Force // Maschine
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- KVRian
- 542 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
12.05 was already impressive, and this one even more so. Also, the Push update is very much appreciated 
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Yup- as a Push 3 SA and Live 12 user it feels like Xmas!
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
12.1 beta 2 released (that was fast!)
12.1b2 Release Notes
July 3, 2024
New features and improvements:
When using the LFO or Glissando algorithm, the currently targeted MPE lane is highlighted and all other lane contents are grayed out.
Bugfixes:
Fixed an issue where Live would not restore a Set after a crash.
Fixed a bug that sometimes caused Live to display information about missing licenses for samples used in the default Set, the restored Set or the template Set.
Improved readability of selected Undo History entries in dark themes.
Fixed an issue where keywords that were added and immediately removed would later reappear in the browser.
12.1b2 Release Notes
July 3, 2024
New features and improvements:
When using the LFO or Glissando algorithm, the currently targeted MPE lane is highlighted and all other lane contents are grayed out.
Bugfixes:
Fixed an issue where Live would not restore a Set after a crash.
Fixed a bug that sometimes caused Live to display information about missing licenses for samples used in the default Set, the restored Set or the template Set.
Improved readability of selected Undo History entries in dark themes.
Fixed an issue where keywords that were added and immediately removed would later reappear in the browser.
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
A rather impressive .1, and not long after the initial release.
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- KVRian
- 926 posts since 26 Mar, 2014 from Denver, Co
non biased review from a non ableton user. theres a slight chance my bias is i wish i loved ableton bc its a great daw.
this limiter is fire. This seems andy cytomic level fire. Would not be surprised if he contributed to the limiter in some way shape or form with how good it is. The fact that they emailed a survey to people asking them in 12.0 if they wanted pitch detection and correction stuff and in a few months they have given you a pitch correction device I would say thats rather impressive. This will also pave the way for them to implement this into whatever other devices. such as pitch detection for a root key of a sample in the sampler/audio clips. With the scale mode being able to be assigned to audio clips and them working on pitch detection / correction devices I would say there is a high likelihood this is the direction they are heading down. Its genuinely just going to be a lot better of a form then what logic tried to do in v11. I see this as something they will likely tease at in each point update before v 13 where they go hard.
this limiter is fire. This seems andy cytomic level fire. Would not be surprised if he contributed to the limiter in some way shape or form with how good it is. The fact that they emailed a survey to people asking them in 12.0 if they wanted pitch detection and correction stuff and in a few months they have given you a pitch correction device I would say thats rather impressive. This will also pave the way for them to implement this into whatever other devices. such as pitch detection for a root key of a sample in the sampler/audio clips. With the scale mode being able to be assigned to audio clips and them working on pitch detection / correction devices I would say there is a high likelihood this is the direction they are heading down. Its genuinely just going to be a lot better of a form then what logic tried to do in v11. I see this as something they will likely tease at in each point update before v 13 where they go hard.
Bitwig 6 • Diva, Dune, Serum, and UVI Falcon are my Daily Drivers • Drum Machines • Harrison 32c + DSM 3 + American Class A Enjoyer • Apple M4 Max • Apollo User • DJ • Dance Music is life
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
I am just about to purchase Ableton 12. Do you know if 12.1 when fully released will be a free upgrade or is it worth waiting to purchase until 12.1 is out?
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
My first post in 15 years and I accidentally post twice! 
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- KVRist
- 175 posts since 5 Jan, 2008 from Atlanta
This is probably the stuff they wanted in 12.0 but it probably wasn't ready in time.andypryce wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:29 am And it looks impressive!
https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-12-beta/
Ableton has a pretty decent track record of doing some fun minor releases.
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Yes, V11 had better stuff in the point releases than came with 11!
12.1 real is a big point release by any standard, but I would expect quite a few more free releases like this before you have to pay again, its normally about 3 years between paid releases
12.1 real is a big point release by any standard, but I would expect quite a few more free releases like this before you have to pay again, its normally about 3 years between paid releases
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
can someone tell me if they fixed the plugin scan at least by halving the time to show it in the dock?
just to remind:
installing 3 new plugins
renoise: well here we go, use it
ableton 11:" let me tell you a tale beforehand"...restart..."ok heres another one"...15mins later..."just use vst3, while i wrote my last shortstory"...restart 3...15mins later...
just to remind:
installing 3 new plugins
renoise: well here we go, use it
ableton 11:" let me tell you a tale beforehand"...restart..."ok heres another one"...15mins later..."just use vst3, while i wrote my last shortstory"...restart 3...15mins later...
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- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
I installed a couple of plugins. I did not notice anything else than small scan before arrangement came into view. I have fast machine + 7GB+/s nvme though.. not sure if those matter so much.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 13 Oct, 2015
finally ... stock autotune! and it sounds decent too!
after years of nagging them and getting backlash from the ableton-ists telling me "they will never do this, ableton is catering to techno producers" when the ableton demo project songs have been trap-rnb since at least 10 years
after years of nagging them and getting backlash from the ableton-ists telling me "they will never do this, ableton is catering to techno producers" when the ableton demo project songs have been trap-rnb since at least 10 years
