HALion 7

[IvyBirds]

Cubase may be great for some (I dislike it) and may be an MPE alternative for HALion is some respects, but Cubase is used by less than 10% of DAW users* so HALion needs MPE support for the other 90%+ of users...

*https://www.production-expert.com/produ ... ird%20spot.

Wow they sampled a whopping 6600 users across the entire world, not to mention they used to be a PT catering site in the past, and are only going to get the geeks who have enough free time to sit and fill out web polls, not the folks that don't bother with the internet that are busy getting their work done.

Beyond that most users of Protools and DAWs don't really use MIDI at all, they use it like a multi track tape recorder and record things like guitars, acoustic drums, and vocals, and then use it a mix down tool

If they use MIDI at all its pretty basic stuff, note on and off, maybe pitch bend, or basic CC control of things like filter sweeps

What they don't do is complex deep sequencing of MIDI data with polyphonic note expressions either with basic MPE or VST Note Expressions

Most electronic musicians don't use it either

So market share of all DAWs used all ways is rather pointless

[Gam456]

Cubase may be great for some (I dislike it) and may be an MPE alternative for HALion is some respects, but Cubase is used by less than 10% of DAW users* so HALion needs MPE support for the other 90%+ of users...

*https://www.production-expert.com/produ ... ird%20spot.

Wow they sampled a whopping 6600 users across the entire world, not to mention they used to be a PT catering site in the past, and are only going to get the geeks who have enough free time to sit and fill out web polls, not the folks that don't bother with the internet that are busy getting their work done.

I'm pretty sure, the result is oriented on audio enginer and not on music creation and composition

Not that it matters, but there are dozens of on line polls that show cubase is really not that dominant anymore. That doesn’t mean it’s not a great DAW, just that there are many great DAWs that suit different workflows or hardware set ups…so making a VST that doesn’t play nicely with all DAWs is a bit limiting…

What I saying this survey is biased. The result will change from different perspective.
Simple. Did you see a lot of composer or music produicer using ProTools ? Did you see a lot of audio engineer using FLStudio?

[SLiC]

[bluesawsq]

How do you change multisample source without changing filter, envelope and LFO settings?
I couldn't find any easy way to do that. Have been running Halion 7.1 trial for couple of hours.

[mothra]

How do you change multisample source without changing filter, envelope and LFO settings?
I couldn't find any easy way to do that. Have been running Halion 7.1 trial for couple of hours.

You're trying to replace a sample in a patch already?? Use the Replace button in the Sample Edit window or just drag and drop a new sample into it.

[bluesawsq]

How do you change multisample source without changing filter, envelope and LFO settings?
I couldn't find any easy way to do that. Have been running Halion 7.1 trial for couple of hours.

You're trying to replace a sample in a patch already?? Use the Replace button in the Sample Edit window or just drag and drop a new sample into it.

I mean changing multisamples, for example factory Layer 'Choir Pad' containing 37 samples. How can a replace all those 37 samples to, for example, factory Layer 'Solo Pipe Organ' containing 62 samples?

Looks like the Replace button in Sample Editor window is only useful for replacing a single sample. And it doesn't seem to allow accessing factory library samples at all.

If I use 'Replace Layer' in Program Tree, it will replace also all filter, envelope, and LFO settings. I would like to preserve those settings and replace only the multisample mappings. Is that possible somehow?

[Sampleconstruct]

Each sample is inside a sample oscillator inside a zone so there is no way to batch replace multisamples. If you select all zones inside a layer in tree view on the right of the interface you can batch edit oscillators though.

[jclosed]

I just upgraded my Halon 6 to Halion 7.1 with the reduced summer sale price. All that new stuff looks very exiting. Time to dive in and play around with all that new stuff. Sigh - There goes a big chunk of my free time (but I don't mind at all).

[SLiC]

Each sample is inside a sample oscillator inside a zone so there is no way to batch replace multisamples. If you select all zones inside a layer in tree view on the right of the interface you can batch edit oscillators though.

If all the multisample zones are in a layer, can you load/replace the whole layer?

[Sampleconstruct]

Each sample is inside a sample oscillator inside a zone so there is no way to batch replace multisamples. If you select all zones inside a layer in tree view on the right of the interface you can batch edit oscillators though.

If all the multisample zones are in a layer, can you load/replace the whole layer?

I think in Halion Sonic you can but I haven’t tried in Halion and anyway that would also replace all the filters and LFOs inside the zones and the request was to only replace the multisamples and keep everything else. Halion can also insert filters from then fx section on program level but they are monophonic and can't be modulated with rhe zone modulatros. Avenger can replace multisamples and keep the rest intact, Falcon can't but in Falcon one can load entire programs as layers which is very useful.

[zerocrossing]

Is this you? If so, good job. I always like your tutorials.

Here’s my question. The only thing that really interests me about Halion 7 is the spectral engine. I’ve got plenty of other synths that cover everything else it does, but my resynthesis options are fairly ancient. (Poseidon and the last Windows build of Alchemy)

Is it worth $125 just for that? I’m a bit miffed that it doesn’t respond to polyphonic aftertouch and MPE outside of Cubase, but I guess that’s OK.

[SLiC]

Is this you? If so, good job. I always like your tutorials.

Here’s my question. The only thing that really interests me about Halion 7 is the spectral engine. I’ve got plenty of other synths that cover everything else it does, but my resynthesis options are fairly ancient. (Poseidon and the last Windows build of Alchemy)

Is it worth $125 just for that? I’m a bit miffed that it doesn’t respond to polyphonic aftertouch and MPE outside of Cubase, but I guess that’s OK.

Nope- just someone who's tutorials I also like.

Not sure I would have bought Halion just for the Spectral Engine, but I also wanted the FM Engine so for me that just about tipped it..its also one of the few VST Samplers that actually samples!

[IvyBirds]

Is this you? If so, good job. I always like your tutorials.

Here’s my question. The only thing that really interests me about Halion 7 is the spectral engine. I’ve got plenty of other synths that cover everything else it does, but my resynthesis options are fairly ancient. (Poseidon and the last Windows build of Alchemy)

Is it worth $125 just for that? I’m a bit miffed that it doesn’t respond to polyphonic aftertouch and MPE outside of Cubase, but I guess that’s OK.

When it comes to Resynthesis I have tried and probably own all of the plugins that do it, old and new

Nothing in my experience does it as well as or as easily as HALion7 to get very musical results

Let me explain what I mean. If you start with a musical sample all you need is a single sample of a single note. Something around C4 will work best. Drag and drop it in and now it's playable across your entire keyboard and sounds pretty awesome.

Where this gets really fun is when you take other plugins, Kontact libraries, etc and record just a single sample of a single note. Then start adding effects to the sample you can get some really beautiful pads by taking anything and adding say a Shimmer Reverb and recording your sample 100% wet now you have pad that's a shimmer

Where it gets really cool is when you do non musical stuff. Field recordings of anything and everything from birds to insects, to whatever can get cool results. It's everything I wanted from Izotope Iris back in the day in a fun easy workflow

If you can get it for $125 it's a steal just for the spectral synth if you are looking to add resynthesis to your arsenal. To be honest I am not sure what wizardry secret sauce they are using to make it work. It's not just breaking it down into sine waves like other tools do, but however it works the results are phenomenal

[Examigan]

A slighty different subject but still related to Steinberg and HALion:
Since I don't need my USB e-licenser anymore as I have the latest version of Absolute, I wonder if anyone would even buy this one from me.

I think XILS-lab might still use them (?), and maybe one or two others.

[EvilDragon]

e-Licenser service is getting completely shut down next year. Selling it isn't worth it.