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DashOfLime wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:36 pm The commentary here is always so ridiculously hilarious. People complaining it sounds too much like their other Oberheim plugins which most certainly do sound "Oberheimy" then this post that says it doesn't (which....of course it does).
So you set me off on listening to a bunch of demos, from the ob-1, ubxa, ob-6 and teo-5.

Unfortunately, although i like the sounda ob1 has, in comparison to the teo 5 it's quite lacking and definitely like a software synth which I can't unheard now.

I'll still demo it, but if anything it's made me quite want a teo-5 now....

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Mr Arkadin wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:07 am
egbert101 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:45 am Does anyone have a real OB-1? It would make life easier if they could demonstrate it against this plugin rather than all the subjective opinions.
I'm assuming christian f. does with his bold statement. How about it christian f.? Do a side by side.
Yes I do have a hardware OB 1.
I'm not a professional side by side dude like Starrsky for example, but I can give it a try.

I've actually seen a video on Youtube with a comparison although not really like the ones the proper comparison youtubers do, but you can clearly hear it go into territories the plug in can't.

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_leras wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:16 am ....So you set me off on listening to a bunch of demos, from the ob-1, ubxa, ob-6 and teo-5.

Unfortunately, although i like the sounda ob1 has, in comparison to the teo 5 it's quite lacking and definitely like a software synth which I can't unheard now.

I'll still demo it, but if anything it's made me quite want a teo-5 now....
I'd say demo the GForce SEM/OB-E too.
The SEM svfilter is my favorite of the bunch and one of the main reasons I'd consider the TEO-5.

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Men will see BONES comment on a KVR thread an go : Hell yeah !
I make electronic music - DAW of choice : Live 12 :hug:

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BONES wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:46 am
BTW, I have no idea what a "helicopter bassline" is. An internet search was not helpful, either.
a bass that sounds like a helicopter.

usually a modulated tone, for that thukka thukka thukka type of thing.
:ud:

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christian f. wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:45 am
Mr Arkadin wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:07 am
egbert101 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:45 am Does anyone have a real OB-1? It would make life easier if they could demonstrate it against this plugin rather than all the subjective opinions.
I'm assuming christian f. does with his bold statement. How about it christian f.? Do a side by side.
Yes I do have a hardware OB 1.
I'm not a professional side by side dude like Starrsky for example, but I can give it a try.

I've actually seen a video on Youtube with a comparison although not really like the ones the proper comparison youtubers do, but you can clearly hear it go into territories the plug in can't.
And the plugin can certainly go into territories that the original can't.

E.g 16 voice polyphony, dedicated LFO and envelope per control, continuously adjustable levels for the sub oscillators, built in hi pass filter, built in arp and sequencer etc. etc.

In fact I think the Gforce OB-1's strengths are from the expansion on the OG.

It's an absolutely gorgeous polysynth.

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kraster wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:03 pm
christian f. wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:45 am
Mr Arkadin wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:07 am
egbert101 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:45 am Does anyone have a real OB-1? It would make life easier if they could demonstrate it against this plugin rather than all the subjective opinions.
I'm assuming christian f. does with his bold statement. How about it christian f.? Do a side by side.
Yes I do have a hardware OB 1.
I'm not a professional side by side dude like Starrsky for example, but I can give it a try.

I've actually seen a video on Youtube with a comparison although not really like the ones the proper comparison youtubers do, but you can clearly hear it go into territories the plug in can't.
And the plugin can certainly go into territories that the original can't.

E.g 16 voice polyphony, dedicated LFO and envelope per control, continuously adjustable levels for the sub oscillators, built in hi pass filter, built in arp and sequencer etc. etc.

In fact I think the Gforce OB-1's strengths are from the expansion on the OG.

It's an absolutely gorgeous polysynth.
There are tons of plugins that can go into territories the GForce OB1 can’t due to extra polyphony , LFOs and even other functions lol. For me the sound is number 1 always .

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Let us never forget the Golden Rule of KVR:

No soft synth will ever sound better or even as good as any hardware synth no matter how much it actually does. :lol:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Teksonik wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:08 pm Let us never forget the Golden Rule of KVR:

No soft synth will ever sound better or even as good as any hardware synth no matter how much it actually does. :lol:
Ah waiting for this "essential" & "good" point of view..... totaly agree.. :tu:
even if I bought all GForce Synth Plugins
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egbert101 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:45 am Does anyone have a real OB-1? It would make life easier if they could demonstrate it against this plugin rather than all the subjective opinions.
Everything is subjective and with synths from that era most component values differ somewhere between 5 and 20%. So they all sound different.
That said, what i wrote on page 6 is coming from someone who has used an ob1 since 1990 and can compare it to the two vintage sems next to it.
There were very few made, probably less than a few thousand people who have used it. I love the hardware, but who else would notice if it's accurate or not?
It's in the ballpark, with all the fx and poly mode a lot of patches sound better than the real thing. But like all soft, once you strip it and go back to the core sound it can be a little lacking. But that's in isolation. Colud i pick out the vst in a blind test with 3 different hardware ob1's? I doubt it.
The fun you get with the sequencer, velocity and xmod is nice bonus.
Just judge the thing on the demo and decide if it fits you.

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Teksonik wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:08 pm Let us never forget the Golden Rule of KVR:

No soft synth will ever sound better or even as good as any hardware synth no matter how much it actually does. :lol:
One of the most cherished myths of the Church of Analog.

No idea what an actual OB-1 sounds like (as there were only a few hundred ever made), but the new GForce plugin sounds amazing. I think they knocked it out of the park. If I bought a new analog polysynth and it sounded like this, I'd be very happy with it.
Stormchild

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_leras wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:16 am Unfortunately, although i like the sounda ob1 has, in comparison to the teo 5 it's quite lacking and definitely like a software synth which I can't unheard now.
One costs $1500 the other $65

One takes up actual physical space, the other takes up a few hundred MBs on a hard drive

One has unlimited patch storage, the other doesn't

One is a emulation of Classic Oberheim Hardware warts and all, the other is a modern synth

I can do a lot with $1445 in savings and get a sound way closer to the original hardware, not to mention the space savings and workflow enhancements of being ITB

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IvyBirds wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:32 am
_leras wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:16 am Unfortunately, although i like the sounda ob1 has, in comparison to the teo 5 it's quite lacking and definitely like a software synth which I can't unheard now.
One costs $1500 the other $65

One takes up actual physical space, the other takes up a few hundred MBs on a hard drive

One has unlimited patch storage, the other doesn't

One is a emulation of Classic Oberheim Hardware warts and all, the other is a modern synth

I can do a lot with $1445 in savings and get a sound way closer to the original hardware, not to mention the space savings and workflow enhancements of being ITB
There still isn't anything ITB that matches the immediacy of hardware for playing. But that has nothing to do with sound. But would I rather play my System-8 hardware or use the System-8 plug-out? Yeah hardware any day of the week. But again...that has nothing to do with sound.

But i've heard a TEO-5 and the OB-1 plugin. TEO-5 sounds nice, but there is nothing there IMHO that makes it sound better than the GForce plugin just because its hardware.

Bought a rev4 P-5 because I always dreamed of owning one, not because it magically sounds better than the Softube plugin. It doesn't.

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DashOfLime wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:17 am There still isn't anything ITB that matches the immediacy of hardware for playing. But that has nothing to do with sound. But would I rather play my System-8 hardware or use the System-8 plug-out? Yeah hardware any day of the week. But again...that has nothing to do with sound.

But i've heard a TEO-5 and the OB-1 plugin. TEO-5 sounds nice, but there is nothing there IMHO that makes it sound better than the GForce plugin just because its hardware.

Bought a rev4 P-5 because I always dreamed of owning one, not because it magically sounds better than the Softube plugin. It doesn't.
I would sort of agree if the OB-1 was an emulation of the TEO-5, but it's not.
They're two different things, with some similarities.

Maybe someday GForce will make a TEO-5 softsynth. But not for quite a while, I think.

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I only saw my GForce email today (must have had 500 emails I hadn't looked at :roll: ). I kinda get it, though I hope Gforce get out of the Oberheim groove they seem to be stuck in and release something different next. I gave it a listen and it's perfectly capable but - I recently got a UBXa and TBH I can't see myself ever wanting more than one Oberheim. It's capable of all kinds of stuff and I definitely will use it but it doesn't light me on fire, no Obie ever will I suspect. Not wasted money but not the best I ever spent by a long shot. Same will go for Obie sw. Usable but a bit soft is my overall evaluation of the Oberheim sound. I'd do valium on an Oberheim but never speed or dance pills :hihi: . Obvs others will disagree and no doubt love Obies. The GForce blurb was about how much more aggressive the OB1 is - hmmmmm. I don't hear it :shrug:

I do rate GForce very highly, but they've not released anything that's my cuppa tea in ages. :?

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