Behringer DAW???
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Nothing? The only news I find is from two years ago. What gives?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I said I hadn't heard any news. The announcement of intent was a little over four years ago if I remember correctly. You'd think there would be some evidence by now.
I also seem to remember an estimate of 18 months for delivery. Not that I didn't think that wasn't wildly optimistic.
I also seem to remember an estimate of 18 months for delivery. Not that I didn't think that wasn't wildly optimistic.
- KVRian
- 744 posts since 15 May, 2003 from R'lyeh
They haven't found the right code to clone yet..
- KVRAF
- 14157 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
This is from MusicTech (and I really hate what the 'Customer Branding Leader' was quoted as saying. :
With the DAW, the brand is being careful not to “recreate something that is already there,” says Götz Müller-Dürholt, Customer Branding Leader at Behringer.
“That’s a pretty steep task because you need to make us old folks who are used to a very specific DAW still find it approachable, but at the same time you need to really think of new ways to work with this.”
“So the now-15-year-olds [usually] don’t even have a computer anymore; just a phone or something,” he says, adding: “AI is a big topic right now, so the DAW is relatively far out at the moment.”
Maybe they are headed the Virsyn route and do a phone app.
With the DAW, the brand is being careful not to “recreate something that is already there,” says Götz Müller-Dürholt, Customer Branding Leader at Behringer.
“That’s a pretty steep task because you need to make us old folks who are used to a very specific DAW still find it approachable, but at the same time you need to really think of new ways to work with this.”
“So the now-15-year-olds [usually] don’t even have a computer anymore; just a phone or something,” he says, adding: “AI is a big topic right now, so the DAW is relatively far out at the moment.”
Maybe they are headed the Virsyn route and do a phone app.
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- KVRian
- 1404 posts since 17 Oct, 2018
jonljacobi wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:14 pm I said I hadn't heard any news. The announcement of intent was a little over four years ago if I remember correctly. You'd think there would be some evidence by now.
I also seem to remember an estimate of 18 months for delivery. Not that I didn't think that wasn't wildly optimistic.
To be a little fair. Bitwig was announced first in 2012 but didn't actually get released until 2 years later. To be a little unfair Bitwig at least was showing some screenshots and demos way before they finally released it.
These things take time though.
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- KVRAF
- 8025 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
I actually kind of dislike that everyone wants to reinvent the wheel instead of doing something like what Apple did and buy a leader, then dump money into it at a rate it's previous owners could not. There's something like 15 competitive DAWs out there now, and 8 are "leaders".
Maybe not reinventing the wheel, but consolidating it is the way in the future. All of the old DAWs have mediocre at best UX, and the new ones are missing features.
Maybe not reinventing the wheel, but consolidating it is the way in the future. All of the old DAWs have mediocre at best UX, and the new ones are missing features.
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- KVRAF
- 7097 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I really looked closely at getting Behringer Wing
https://www.behringer.com/behringer/pro ... e=0603-AEN
Thought it could be perfect as a hardware portastudio, kind of.
- it could handle 60 tracks on SD card
- all hardware faders, effect and everything
- it would be a dream, I felt
But talking to Behringer/MusicTribe it would not work.
- they did not design so you could listen to some tracks and record another
So to increase sales of those, they could fix that, instead of some daw that people just pirate copy and these things.
- hardware seems the solution to all this
- one reason Arturia CEO said they went hardware in an interview, being software only at first
- Behringer is going wild doing hardware synths too
Tascam though have a series of mixers Model 12, 16 and 24.
They do it all on SD card. and said to have better electronics than DP series.
- but computer really work well these days
- dual monitors and such a bliss
If Behringer would to go dawmaking I would think making a bid at Cockos Reaper and make that a true user friendly software that looked top notch.
- but why, really, just freeriders using Reaper to a large extent
There were a poll at Cockos forum 10 years ago on how many thought Reaper should stay never ending trial for free
- about 80% said they wanted that to remain
https://www.behringer.com/behringer/pro ... e=0603-AEN
Thought it could be perfect as a hardware portastudio, kind of.
- it could handle 60 tracks on SD card
- all hardware faders, effect and everything
- it would be a dream, I felt
But talking to Behringer/MusicTribe it would not work.
- they did not design so you could listen to some tracks and record another
So to increase sales of those, they could fix that, instead of some daw that people just pirate copy and these things.
- hardware seems the solution to all this
- one reason Arturia CEO said they went hardware in an interview, being software only at first
- Behringer is going wild doing hardware synths too
Tascam though have a series of mixers Model 12, 16 and 24.
They do it all on SD card. and said to have better electronics than DP series.
- but computer really work well these days
- dual monitors and such a bliss
If Behringer would to go dawmaking I would think making a bid at Cockos Reaper and make that a true user friendly software that looked top notch.
- but why, really, just freeriders using Reaper to a large extent
There were a poll at Cockos forum 10 years ago on how many thought Reaper should stay never ending trial for free
- about 80% said they wanted that to remain
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- KVRAF
- 2066 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
You realize that's a long-time and successful business model since shareware existed? REAPER tends to attract a crowd that believes in the model. It's the 20% of i-got-mines you should be worried about.lfm wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:15 pm - but why, really, just freeriders using Reaper to a large extent
There were a poll at Cockos forum 10 years ago on how many thought Reaper should stay never ending trial for free
- about 80% said they wanted that to remain
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- KVRAF
- 1991 posts since 12 Mar, 2004
Isn't the B DAW one of the cancelled projects?
They cancelled a ton of projects when the holding company was put up for sale (Nobody wanted it at the asking price if i remember right?)
Every DAW that Behringer have touched has turned to crap anyway, XT, Tracktion, Tracktion are trying to claw their way back, but it might take them a while.
They cancelled a ton of projects when the holding company was put up for sale (Nobody wanted it at the asking price if i remember right?)
Every DAW that Behringer have touched has turned to crap anyway, XT, Tracktion, Tracktion are trying to claw their way back, but it might take them a while.
Duh
- KVRAF
- 25018 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Behringer neither "touched" energyXT nor Tracktion I think. As far as I remember they only distributed each of both at some point for a while.
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- KVRAF
- 1991 posts since 12 Mar, 2004
It is a British saying, it means "Had anything to do with" IE distributed them.jens wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:24 pm Behringer neither "touched" energyXT nor Tracktion I think. As far as I remember they only distributed each of both at some point for a while.
Duh
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Ignoring maintenance could be described as touching the evolution, progress...
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- KVRAF
- 1711 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
Don't let Behringer get anywhere near Reaperlfm wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:15 pm I would think making a bid at Cockos Reaper and make that a true user friendly software that looked top notch.
- but why, really, just freeriders using Reaper to a large extent
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- KVRAF
- 16741 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I doubt that they would be successful while Justin is still interested in writing software. AFAIK, he has more money than he needs and is motivated by living his vision. I could be wrong of course.
I agree though, I'm not a Behringer hater, but I'm not interested in any large corporation's take on Reaper. I will continue to upgrade Reaper as long as Cockos is running the show unhindered. When they sell out, I will just use the last released version until the end of (my) time.