Key Control

[Urs]

do i see it correctly in the video, that you are using the central-upper-number-row ?
instead of the numpad

wouldn't that be problematic in logic, where the upper-row is directly controlling the screensets...?

just curious...

If you want to switch screen sets in Logic with our new stuff in the foreground, you need to switch Key Control off in our plug-ins. Or just click outside our plug-in window to remove key focus.

[muki]

yes! - cool
just tried it in the new beta and it works well and as expected (in logic)

1 question - 1 suggestion:

question:
as i can see,
i can de/increase values in 10er steps by opt-+ opt--
where +/- are pressed on the numpad
it does not work with the +/- of the main keybed

ergometrically (sp?) opt-+ with + on the numpad is not doable with one hand for me
too far distance for my small hands
whereas the central main keybed oppt-+ keycombo would work perfectly

what's the reason the main keybed +/- are excluded ?

suggestion:
arturia (pigments and probably most others) allow to forward/previous select presets from within the initial main parameter window with the arrow up/down keys

i do like this behaviour very much

would be great to have something similar within u-he plugins

thx

[Urs]

Whatever happens on shift/command with +/- on the main keyboard depends on the actual keyboard layout. On my German Mac keyboard, shift + is * and shift - is _, with other layouts it's different. At this point of time we don't see how we could set this up without substantial work, either by offering customisation or by maintaining a database of keyboard layouts.

We're rather proud of our preset browser. I need time to adjust to the thought of adding means to ignore it.

[muki]

depends on the actual keyboard layout. On my German Mac keyboard, shift + is * and shift - is _, with other layouts it's different.

yeah, same here with a satechi BT in german-mac layout

We're rather proud of our preset browser. I need time to adjust to the thought of adding means to ignore it.

point taken

...it's just soooo convenient...the arturia thingie, i mean....

[zvenx]

I now wish Hive had a wood panel too, if only to have a consistency where the key control on and off icon is placed.
rsp

[muki]

OOPS! instant crash with DIVA (KeyCTRL not activated):

in logic 10.5.1 under mojave

launch logic
insert DIVA
open DIVA panel
select presets
hit the down arrow key
instant byebye crash

crash report saved

same with hostingAU

this only happens with Diva
not with ACE, Hive or Bazille

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

do i see it correctly in the video, that you are using the central-upper-number-row ?
instead of the numpad

wouldn't that be problematic in logic, where the upper-row is directly controlling the screensets...?

just curious...

Does Logic not allow you to send keyboard entries to plugins? Are the key commands always global?

EDIT: didn't see subsequent posts on the topic.

[muki]

p.s.:
the crash also happens in Diva with KeyCTRL on

btw,
i just noticed that all of them remember the on/off state of KeyCTRL between various launches
does this make sense - i.e.: is this really useful ?

[muki]

Does Logic not allow you to send keyboard entries to plugins?

it does allow to send key commands to plugins

but
a)
logic has tons of keyboard shortcuts on its own
which wants to be >sort of< "global" (or "more important)

therefore
b)
the plugin window must be active, i.e.: the foreground active window, i.e.: in focus
(has a visible thin white line around the window)

but afaik/iirc not all shortcuts are caught

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Does Logic not allow you to send keyboard entries to plugins?

it does allow to send key commands to plugins

but
a)
logic has tons of keyboard shortcuts on its own
which wants to be >sort of< "global" (or "more important)

therefore
b)
the plugin window must be active, i.e.: the foreground active window, i.e.: in focus
(has a visible thin white line around the window)

but afaik/iirc not all shortcuts are caught

So you couldn't name a preset "Blade Runner 2049" if you wanted to without copying and pasting text from a notes document or something because Logic would eat the numbers? That's a bummer and silly shortcoming.

I keep thinking I should pick up a Logic license just to have it on my Macbook, but nah...

[brossmac]

Would love to see keyboard control of assigning favorites/junk when browsing presets. Maybe assigning a number key to each of the favorites, etc.

[Fannon]

We're rather proud of our preset browser. I need time to adjust to the thought of adding means to ignore it.

The preset browser is indeed one of the things I love most about the u-he synths. You did a really great job with that.

Having some MIDI buttons to navigate without opening up is not taking anything away from it. Once you want to get an overview, organize, browse or search for presets, you'll definitely want to go there.

[muki]

So you couldn't name a preset "Blade Runner 2049" if you wanted to without copying and

huh?
no...
you can name a preset whatever and however you want to

by typing, copying, pasting, whatever....

different kind of beast (aka dialog box)

[tasmaniandevil]

OOPS! instant crash with DIVA (KeyCTRL not activated):

Weird. So far, we cannot reproduce this over here. Tried it on Mojave 10.14.6 using Hosting-AU, Reaper and Logic 10.5.1.

How exactly are you selecting presets? Tried it on the preset browser page and also on the main Diva synth page using the preset list dropdown from the main data display. In both cases, I can use the keyboard cursor keys to navigate presets, with and without key control active. No crash.

Can you try uninstalling and then reinstalling Diva?
Uninstall instructions can be found here: https://u-he.com/support/faq.html#compa ... :uninstall

If this doesn't help, it'd be best to contact our support, so we can dig a little deeper.
https://u-he.com/support/#contact

[muki]

that´s weird indeed…

How exactly are you selecting presets?

i meant: click on the preset tab
(sorry for being a little unpreciese)

so the sequence would be:

insert diva
click diva to open the gui
click the „preset“ tab (in the diva gui) to open the preset panel
hit arrow down key

i‘ll contact support for the crashreports
maybe they‘ll be helpful