MuLab 10.0.85

[MuTools]

Been giving it a try. Some initial observations:-
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So far I have experienced no crashes or problems while mucking about with this. I hope the above is useful.

Definitely very useful, thank you!
Will work on it.

About muting:
Selecting and muting indeed are not undoable actions.
As far as i see there is no need for it.
Other opinions?

[pljones]

*On another note the beta seems to be deleting plugins from channels on it's own.
Possibly when changing out a plugin, extras are deleted, even from other tracks.
For me anyway...

Is that something you can give steps to reproduce reliably or is it sporadic?

[pekbro]

*On another note the beta seems to be deleting plugins from channels on it's own.
Possibly when changing out a plugin, extras are deleted, even from other tracks.
For me anyway...

Is that something you can give steps to reproduce reliably or is it sporadic?

No, it seems to happen randomly. It's not something I notice right away either,
since you are working on one track and it often occurs on another. Pretty sure
it was in the last beta as well, but not as often.

[MuTools]

No, it seems to happen randomly. It's not something I notice right away either,
since you are working on one track and it often occurs on another. Pretty sure
it was in the last beta as well, but not as often.

Very curious for more details on this.
Question: Is it the plugin itself that is removed, or is it only its editor that is unexpectedly closed?

[pekbro]

No, it seems to happen randomly. It's not something I notice right away either,
since you are working on one track and it often occurs on another. Pretty sure
it was in the last beta as well, but not as often.

Very curious for more details on this.
Question: Is it the plugin itself that is removed, or is it only its editor that is unexpectedly closed?

The plugin was definitely removed, mostly instruments. When I would drop a replacement on another instrument, an instrument would be removed from
another track as well. Mostly it was a plugin called Triaz from Wave Alchemy,
but not exclusively.

It has not happened since, that I am aware of, but there was a nice update
for Triaz recently and I've been focusing on some new synths and not swapping
them out, pretty much.

I should have some logs where it happened and have been looking through them
a little. I haven't found anything yet. If it happens again, I will be sure to grab
the log.

-Cheers

*sent u a logfile via email...

[MuTools]

That logfile certainly helps, thanks!

[MuTools]

MuLab App M9.6.4 alpha for Windows 64 bit is available on https://www.mutools.com/mulab/app/lates ... /beta.html

What's changed:

• Click [+] track button -> Add Track functions were not yet undoable. Now they are. As well as several related drag-drop actions.
• Rack slot module -> Setup Aux Ins/Outs now is undoable.
• Rack slot module -> Setup Sidechain now is undoable.
• Drop audio file / sample on sample event now is undoable.
• Drop audio file / sample on drum pad now is undoable.
• Drop audio file on multi-sample editor: If the action includes importing a new sample, now this is also undoable.
• Drop rack slot module on [+] rack, properly creates a new rack with that module, but undo did not fully restore it. Fixed.
• When doing module context menu -> Replace in the Modular Area, the existing connections were not preserved anymore. Fixed.
• There was an issue with the "Max Num Undo/Redo Bytes" preference. Issue has been fixed and this preference now is renamed to "Max Num Undo/Redo MegaBytes" to make it more practical.
• When building long audio file display overviews, there was a bug that ruined this new audio display overview data, with the consequence that showing that audio file could be slow. Fixed.
• Other small improvements.

Still some todos wrt making some sample-related drag-drop actions undoable.

Still regarded as alpha as it still needs some more testing.
Any help with testing is much appreciated and will speed up the progress!

[RichardSemper]

M964:
Undo of add and remove tracks all working now, apart from the following anomalies:

1. Drop midi file from browser:-
Added new track with mux instrument, dragged Midi file from browser onto track
went to undo - result New track was undone, left image of midi file on screen but not assigned to any track.

1b. Drag parameter onto target sub-track creates a part for automation of that parameter - can only undo 'set track target module' but the part remains. Again if 'add track' is undone the part is still visible but not attached to a track.

1c. Drop rack preset (containing a vst synth) from browser:-
If undo used after instrument or preset interface opened, the plugin interface is left on screen until a new rack is inserted with a different plugin. (visual only - can be moved around the screen)

2a. New Issue - File browser-Samples-This Project: 'Delete unused' no longer works for multi-sample preset samples after preset removed: Deleted all tracks and nothing on the timeline, but all samples previously loaded remain in the browser. Also survives save and reload. So every sample loaded in multi-samples during the session is added to the project file and not removed either by removing the instance or through undo.

2b. Using the 'delete unused' option as above also removes all undo history.

3a. Drag and drop mux preset onto rack position 1 - replacing previous mux preset - not undoable - this works fine replacing plugins, just not mux presets.

3b. The context menu 'replace' option for the rack slot appears now to be broken - when a preset/plugin is selected from the menu the rack is left empty instead, though the plugin interface may show up.

I will keep testing later to see what else I can break

[FabBad]

Hi,
1. The Max Num Undo / Redo Megabytes is still 32 in my end, Not possible to up to 100.
Maybe I'm missing something...

2.Trying to replace an instrument in Rack slot, the result is a delete

Edit: i found another bug (2).

[pekbro]

Consistent crash with the beta while working with some midi files... sent error log via email...

[MuTools]

Thanks for all feedback!

MuLab App M9.6.5 alpha for Windows 64 bit is available on https://www.mutools.com/mulab/app/lates ... /beta.html

What's changed:

• Due to a new bug when an undoable action leads to no action, eg. dragging the length of a note to zero, this caused a crash. Fixed.
• Rack slot -> Replace was broken. Fixed.
• Add Sub-Track now is undoable.
• Add Automation Sub-Track now is undoable.
• Drop parameter on new sub-track now is properly undoable.
• Import MIDI file now is undoable.
• Fixed a memory leak when importing MIDI files that contain text events.
• Fixed a persistent dumb issue with the "Max Num Undo/Redo MegaBytes" preference
• Paste audio into new sample now is undoable.
• Drop sample on sample player now is undoable.
  Though there still is an issue with updating the editor view after undo/redo.
  Reopening the editor fixed it for now, but of course a Todo.

Still some work todo but that first mentioned bug was really annoying, as well as the broken Rack slot -> Replace so wanted to share a fix for that asap.

[MuTools]

1. Drop midi file from browser:-
Added new track with mux instrument, dragged Midi file from browser onto track
went to undo - result New track was undone, left image of midi file on screen but not assigned to any track.

Should be fixed in M9.6.5.

1b. Drag parameter onto target sub-track creates a part for automation of that parameter - can only undo 'set track target module' but the part remains. Again if 'add track' is undone the part is still visible but not attached to a track.

Should be fixed in M9.6.5.

1c. Drop rack preset (containing a vst synth) from browser:-
If undo used after instrument or preset interface opened, the plugin interface is left on screen until a new rack is inserted with a different plugin. (visual only - can be moved around the screen)

Taken note.

2a. New Issue - File browser-Samples-This Project: 'Delete unused' no longer works for multi-sample preset samples after preset removed: Deleted all tracks and nothing on the timeline, but all samples previously loaded remain in the browser. Also survives save and reload. So every sample loaded in multi-samples during the session is added to the project file and not removed either by removing the instance or through undo.

Taken note.

2b. Using the 'delete unused' option as above also removes all undo history.

Will check.

3a. Drag and drop mux preset onto rack position 1 - replacing previous mux preset - not undoable - this works fine replacing plugins, just not mux presets.

That's because dropping a mux preset on a mux loads that preset into that mux, which currently is not yet undoable, though it's on the wishlist.

3b. The context menu 'replace' option for the rack slot appears now to be broken - when a preset/plugin is selected from the menu the rack is left empty instead, though the plugin interface may show up.

Fixed in M9.6.5.

I will keep testing later to see what else I can break

Many thanks

[MuTools]

1. The Max Num Undo / Redo Megabytes is still 32 in my end, Not possible to up to 100.
Maybe I'm missing something...

The person who is missing something is me
My dumb mistake, sorry.
Fixed in M9.6.5.

2.Trying to replace an instrument in Rack slot, the result is a delete

Fixed in M9.6.5.

[MuTools]

Consistent crash with the beta while working with some midi files... sent error log via email...

Fixed in M9.6.5, right?

[pekbro]

Consistent crash with the beta while working with some midi files... sent error log via email...

Fixed in M9.6.5, right?

sry...
Yes, seems like it.