Best reverbs !?

[BlitBit]

With Bitwig's Grid you can create your own best reverb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwSl8vDmcts

[Erik_Lucas]

In my opinion, the best spring emu I've heard is Pulsar Audio's Primavera.

[stoopicus]

It’s a delay, not a reverb, but I just picked up PSP Audioware’s Lexicon PCM-42 plugin and it is awesome.

[swilow11]

With Bitwig's Grid you can create your own best reverb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwSl8vDmcts

As interesting as this is, there's just no way that I'm going to be able to create my best reverb compared to devs that focus their entire life's work on building reverb plugins. At mostt, I and many users will probably make something "not bad". But if anyone has a cool Grid reverb patch to share, I'm interested.

[martiu]

if it has blackhole in the name it is the best, lock the thread

[Polyverse Music]

Hi KVR users. Have you tried our COMET Reverb? It's not new, but we often hear from users that they wish they had known about it earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaAuoeh1y-E

You can get it here:
https://polyversemusic.com/products/comet/

Love Comet- great weird sounds can be found via the preset Morph function, or through coupling it with Manipulator to make a sort of shimmer verb. My only complaint is the relatively high CPU usage.

Unfortunately, the usual shortcoming with the top notch stuff.

I love Comet. Yes, there's only one algorithm, but, that one works nicely. IMO, it has just the right feature set too. The only thing I miss a bit is the rate parameter for the detuning/modulation.

Luckily, I bought it cheap on sale (won't say for how much ). 149 € definitely is a bit steep... 99 € would be the more sensible price.

Thank you for the feedback. I will forward it to the team.

[chk071]

[midi sentinel]

If you own 'original' Blackhole, Blackhole Immersive crossgrade price is now $49.50 on Eventide site. I just got it, no idea for how long this sale will run.

[Funk Dracula]

With Bitwig's Grid you can create your own best reverb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwSl8vDmcts

As interesting as this is, there's just no way that I'm going to be able to create my best reverb compared to devs that focus their entire life's work on building reverb plugins. At mostt, I and many users will probably make something "not bad". But if anyone has a cool Grid reverb patch to share, I'm interested.

This is true-ish. I went down the "make your own reverb in the Grid" rabbit hole for awhile, and got some great results. The thing is, of course the 3rd party dev's who specialize in algo's have smoother sounding and tailored algos. It's a given. But give it a try and don't discount the happy accidents you inevitably will stumble upon haha.

I will say that the experience in making my own verbs unlocked a part of my brain that helped me appreciate and tweak 3rd party verbs that much better as well. It helped me develop a better understanding when deciding what algo to reach for from what vendor, and what to tweak on them. I had a pretty damn good understanding of it before being a 20+ year engineering vet, but the experience of making my own gave me "augmented reverb rabbit ears" so to speak haha.

Don't forget tho that in Bitwig your 3rd party reverbs are already exponentially more powerful, simply because you're using them in Bitwig.

Add an ADSR, envelope follower, LFO, MSEG, sequencer, keytracker, or whatever to your favorite reverb's parameters. The amount of movement and features you can unlock and inject into your existing 3rd party reverbs via Bitwig is pretty insane. They become whole new plug-ins.

I have many, many synth patches I've designed where a 3rd party reverb is literally a part of the instrument because the reverb plays/reacts live to my playing. For example, I have a bass synth patch where modulating Blackhole Immersive's gravity parameter with an ADSR and Keytracker is adding a quick and subtle pitch shift to each note's attack phase in a very musical way.

And of course, you can more easily route your reverbs in clever/musical ways in Bitwig. Like several reverbs set up in parallel in an FX layer with cascading and ascending pre-delay times. Or have several reverbs round robin in an FX selector. Or parallel process what is fed into your reverb, or after. The rabbit hole just goes down forever.

You just can't do this stuff outside of Bitwig unless you spent countless hours meticulously drawing in automation note per note across dozens of parameters and dozens of tracks/sends/returns post performance.

There are some 3rd party plug-ins that have some better modulation options in the verbs, but this stuff is one algo, usually costs 100+ bucks, and doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what Bitwig has already unlocked for you with the best pre-existing 3rd party reverb algo's out there that you already own.

Cheers

[simon.a.billington]

The new Plugin Alliance bx_aura is looking and sounding pretty sexy to me at the moment...

Man, I need to get out more!!

Really? I've just watched the video and I couldn't see the point. If you're new to music production then it's complicated and doesn't really teach you how to dial in reverb. And if you've been around a while you're going to have all the tools and knowledge to do this anyway.

Maybe I'm just getting jaded but I really think reverbs are done now and I'm not expecting anything truly new or better than what's already available.

Ditto delays.

Oh yeah, reverbs have been done to death. I have a few too many, but they all have their unique sound, unique voicing and texture. Some reverbs are better complimenting one thing, while others something else. I can say the same thing bout modelled eqs and compressors too.

Not that you need alot of these choices to make the music, but if you've got them and have already paid for them you may as well figure out good use cases for your investments.

bx_aura has alot of features other reverbs do, but the Reverse isn't as common nor is their Echos mode. The Ducker & Gate are less common too, so already this reverb is finding a bit of a niche with me. Sonically it also sounds different to bx_rooMS

But rooMS has Distortion, lower bit depth options, plus it can have a metallic sound about it so would better as a substitute plate reverb, for example.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Both have the potential to sound fantastic in their own right given the right context. So why not make use of both as the case arises?!?

[SonicGems]

I'm still rocking R4 and Nimbus!

The IK Space Delay which is free this month with Loopcloud, comes with a nice spring reverb, It's an AI capture type thing, very realistic sounding!

[Dip200]

To me, there is no such thing as the best reverb.

[Trancit]

...
Don't forget tho that in Bitwig your 3rd party reverbs are already exponentially more powerful, simply because you're using them in Bitwig.

Add an ADSR, envelope follower, LFO, MSEG, sequencer, keytracker, or whatever to your favorite reverb's parameters. The amount of movement and features you can unlock and inject into your existing 3rd party reverbs via Bitwig is pretty insane. They become whole new plug-ins.

...

I don´t know why people always want to claim this would have first been possible with Bitwig...

FL Studio did all of this 10 years before Bitwig became a wet dream in the nights of their developers...
... as well as they had per note modulation for instruments already a decade before it became a thing as "MPE" ...

[EfreetiSultan]

My new go to is Voxengo OldskoolVerb. It's free, sounds great, perfect as an insert (separate dry/wet controls) and extremely easy and fast to use. I put it on everything these days.

As a send I really like Zynaptiq Subspace. Also free Just four different verbs to pick from. Limits the options but usually one of those 4 fits perfectly 90% of the time.

[WackyZoundz]

FL Studio did all of this 10 years before Bitwig became a wet dream in the nights of their developers...
... as well as they had per note modulation for instruments already a decade before it became a thing as "MPE" ...

Correct. More than 15 years ago actually.