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I was transferring old projects to the new versions and noticed that MuLab doesn't use the clipboard when copying notes, tracks, etc.

As I understand it, copying occurs in the local memory of the running application, and data cannot be copy-pasted even between two running apps with the same version.

I think this feature should be added. I can imagine that when the tenth version of the program comes out, and I won't be able to convert projects made on the previous version for... god knows what reason (MuLab 8 very often could not convert projects made on MuLab 7), then at least I will be able to copy-paste notes. It will be much faster than exporting MIDI for each separate track.

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MuLab 8 can load projects made with MuLab 7.
In fact MuLab 9 can load any project made with any version of MuLab, even MuLab 1, be it that it might need 1 or 2 conversion steps, depending on how old the project is.
For all projects made with MuLab 4 or up, it only takes a single conversion step to load it into MuLab 9: Open the project in MuLab 8 and resave it.

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mutools wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:12 pm MuLab 8 can load projects made with MuLab 7.
Open the project in MuLab 8 and resave it.
I can't. If your program leaves a log file somewhere with debug information about why the conversion failed, I could attach it in the next message.
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Log files are stored in your MuLab/User/LogFiles subfolder.
Please email the corresponding logfile for the screenshot you shared to Image

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mutools wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:52 pm Please email the corresponding logfile for the screenshot you shared to Image
Sent.

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It has nothing to do with the fact that it is a MuLab 7 file.
The log file contains an Out Of Memory error.
You're using MuLab 8 32 bit so you're limited to theoretically 4 GB in total, but practically that will be less.
Try using MuLab 8 64 bit. That will enable all available RAM you have in your system.

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mutools wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:09 pm Try using MuLab 8 64 bit. That will enable all available RAM you have in your system.
Thank you, this really helped, I was able to open the project.

Now the second problem is that MuLab 8 Free only has 32-bit version for Windows while MacOS has 64-bit.
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I downloaded the legacy version, but it is labeled as "Demo" and does not allow me to save the project.
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I see that you have a MuLab 9 App User Key so i've emailed you a temporary MuLab 8 User Key so that you can use MuLab 8 to upgrade all your MuLab 7 projects and make them compatible with MuLab 9.

I know the conversion step is not funny but up to now there are only 2 points in the whole MuLab lifetime ( = 20 years) where there was a project file data break: MuLab 4 and MuLab 9. It really is necessary, for R&D healthiness, that sometimes old legacy code ballast is dropped, but with the conversion bridge, so that no single project is lost.

Be sure to have a look at this doc page: https://www.mutools.com/info/M9/docs/mu ... jects.html
It contains useful info to optimize the upgrade process.

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You mean like having two Mulabs open, the same MuLab 9,
and copying something from one project open on one, into a project opened in another one?

I tried that, when I was trying to rebuild a Mux from a former project in a new project.
It doesn't work. :)

It can be worked around in 2 or three steps,
but it might be a useful extra ability if it could do that.

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