Waldorf MicroWave as a plugin?

[El°HYM]

I’m not sure the M filter is supposed to recreate the Microwave rev1 filter. It does sound very good, though. I can confirm that.

Had to research this a bit myself. The M uses an SSI 2144 while the original MW Rev A had CEM 3389 filters

For those interested:
https://www.soundonsound.com/news/proph ... hip-makers
&
https://faq.waldorfian.info/mw1-inside.html

[drsyncenstein]

Aha. That's the modern version of the filter in the PPG Wave 2.2 and 2.3. Only the Wave 2 had a CEM filter (3320). So the inspiration for the M seems tp be the PPG. Personally i like the SSM filters with wavetables better. Did not like it in the Wave 2, not a big fan of the MW's filters.

[Uncle E]

The SSI synths I've played have a dullness to them that my SSM synths don't have. It's hard to say if the chips are the reason but the dullness is consistent.

[mothra]

Aha. That's the modern version of the filter in the PPG Wave 2.2 and 2.3. Only the Wave 2 had a CEM filter (3320). So the inspiration for the M seems tp be the PPG. Personally i like the SSM filters with wavetables better. Did not like it in the Wave 2, not a big fan of the MW's filters.

They probably went with the SSI because it's readily available (cant recall if anyone makes a CEM3320 knockoff, maybe Cool Audio????). Doepfer somehow got ahold of a stash of 2044s because that's what in my SSM filter in my modular, LOVE that thing, kinda wish that's what was in my Rev 2.

[drsyncenstein]

All the popular curtis and ssm chips have been either re-issued, cloned, or both.
The 3320 is reissued, cloned by alfa RPAr and by Coolaudio.
Price per item might be a reason (idk), or the format the chips can be deliverd in.

[Uncle E]

Not that easy to get Cool Audio chips. I was able to buy 100 of their BBD’s from their service center but that was it.

[drsyncenstein]

I just buy diy quantities, but curtis and Alfa rpar are easily attainable.
Erica synths has many rpar models in stock.
By reissued i meant that Curtis is in business again and sells the originals.

[Uncle E]

Oh! That’s great to hear!

Still, I’m guessing a reissued microwave would just be a rack version of the M, maybe even using the same PCB’s. SSI’s being surface mount is a big part of their appeal.

[drsyncenstein]

well, perhaps there IS a god of synthchips:
AS3320 РDIP-18 (300 mil body)
AS3320D SOIC-18 (300 mil body)
AS3320F QFN-24L (4*4 mm 0.5 mm)

https://www.alfarzpp.lv/eng/sc/AS3320.pdf

[El°HYM]

Aha. That's the modern version of the filter in the PPG Wave 2.2 and 2.3. Only the Wave 2 had a CEM filter (3320). So the inspiration for the M seems tp be the PPG. Personally i like the SSM filters with wavetables better. Did not like it in the Wave 2, not a big fan of the MW's filters.

Slightly different, yet also pretty close I would say. The M is surely a great Synth!

[drsyncenstein]

Nice demo. Maybe not the best material too bring out the differences.

[El°HYM]

At least I still could hear the Difference; yet also liked the M actually, which was similar.

Most of the Youtube stuff is 'not the best material' for me anyway, to be honest.

[DrGonzo]

Another teaser just dropped.

[chk071]

Now I even have less of a clue what it will be.

[wintoid]

A red death star?